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Disagreeing Doesn't Mean We're Un-American [barf alert]
KVI 570 AM (by way of KOMO) ^ | September 19, 2003 | Ken Schram

Posted on 09/20/2003 9:21:12 AM PDT by Eala

SEATTLE - So, it's not just me.

Read Joel Connelly's column in Friday's Seattle P-I.

Read Ellen Goodman's column in the Seattle Times Friday.

Or, just give my friend Mikey a call.

Mikey stopped me yesterday to comment on how viciously strident conservative broadcasters have become.

How Limbaugh, Hanity [SIC]and O'Reilly, for example, figure that if we don't support President Bush in EVERY instance, on EVERY issue, at ALL times, then we are un-American.

That's it's not enough to merely mistrust liberals or moderates, we must disdain them, or we are un-American.

That if we don't let right-wing anally-conservative broadcasters do our thinking; if we don't strictly adhere to their every proclamation, we're un-American.

If we don't march to the beat of KVI's drum -- KVI -- owed by the same folks that own KOMO -- or in cadence with Rupert Murdoch's "Fair and Balanced" FOX band, then by gosh, by gum, by golly, we are un-American.

At one point, Goodman referred to it all as a "political food fight."

Connelly lamented the loss of civil political debate.

But while they keep themselves above the fray, I choose to immerse myself in it and come out swinging.

So, for Mikey, myself and all others who fell so labeled, I have an ALL-AMERICAN answer to the likes of Rush and Sean and Bill: Up yours!

Want to share your thoughts with Ken Schram? You can e-mail him at kenschram@komo4news.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: american; broadcasters; carlson; columnist; columnists; connelly; conservative; conservatives; goodman; hannity; kvi; limbaugh; oreilly; schram; strident; unamerican
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Connelly lamented the loss of civil political debate.
But while they keep themselves above the fray...
...Up yours!

Poor Ken has really lost it now. It was the Left who long ago departed from the realms of civil political debate, but his liberal columnist friends would never admit that. And one has only to read their columns to see how viciously strident they are -- Ellen Goodman "above the fray"? Gimme a break!

Ken Schram is going to be on John Carlson's program on KVI Monday afternoon. And John has thrown the gauntlet down. This should be fun; I hope I get to hear it.

1 posted on 09/20/2003 9:21:13 AM PDT by Eala
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To: Eala
How Limbaugh, Hanity [SIC]and O'Reilly, for example, figure that if we don't support President Bush in EVERY instance, on EVERY issue, at ALL times, then we are un-American.

No. Its because you oppose Bush on ALL counts EVERY time he tries to defend this country. Its also because they hate-America and support terrorists.

2 posted on 09/20/2003 9:24:40 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: Eala
"Up yours!"

Rational discourse? As I look through this piece, it strikes me that a psychiatrist might theorize that this fellow has an anal obsession. I wonder why? The old time Freudians would have said that he never grew up.
3 posted on 09/20/2003 9:24:42 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Eala
Disagreeing doesn't mean you are un-American but when defame our President or, as with many liberals in this nation, hope we fail in Iraq to gain political victory, you are un-American and a selfish bastard!
4 posted on 09/20/2003 9:26:52 AM PDT by God luvs America
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To: Eala
Another example of the discourse that is common from the DUmpers
5 posted on 09/20/2003 9:32:58 AM PDT by UB355
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To: Eala
This from people who are always, ALWAYS, comparing conservatives to Nazis, racists, child-killers, women-haters, environment-destroyers, elderly-murderers just because they don't support liberals on EVERY idea.

What goes around, comes around. We give as good as we get.

6 posted on 09/20/2003 9:37:11 AM PDT by Paul Atreides (Bringing you quality, non-unnecessarily-excerpted threads since 2002)
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To: God luvs America
I would like to ask them: Have you condemned Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden 1/10 as harshly as you have condemned President Bush?
7 posted on 09/20/2003 9:38:54 AM PDT by Paul Atreides (Bringing you quality, non-unnecessarily-excerpted threads since 2002)
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To: Eala
Disagreeing Doesn't Mean We're Un-American

These clowns couldn't agree more.


8 posted on 09/20/2003 9:44:00 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Great Googlymoogly!)
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To: Eala
Well, * you!
9 posted on 09/20/2003 9:51:30 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Eala
That's EXACTLY RIGHT!It was during the eight-year REIGN of Emperor BeelzeBubba that political discourse deteriorated to the point that curbstones became SKYSCRAPERS!!"The Gingrich That Stole Christmas"."The Republicans Want To Starve Old People,Slash The School-Lunch Program,Let Medicare "Wither On The Vine","Starve Old People","Steal From The Poor"!!!!The DemonRats with their willing accomplices in The Major Media are responsible for the civility disappearing from political discourse!!!If you didn't accept BLINDLY EVERYTHING that came down the pike from the criminal enterprise that RULED for EIGHT LONG YEARS,you were called all kinds of names like"Clinton-Hater","Clinton-Basher","UnAmerican"!!!!!I need to visit the bathroom momentarily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10 posted on 09/20/2003 9:52:08 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: KC_Conspirator
"How Limbaugh, Hanity [SIC]and O'Reilly, for example, figure that if we don't support President Bush in EVERY instance, on EVERY issue, at ALL times, then we are un-American."

Actually, this is projection. To delve into psychobabble, liberals routinely accuse non-liberals of what they themselves do all the time. Why? They know they think that way and assume everyone else does too!

Let's turn it around: "How Dean, Kenedy [SIC]and the NY Times, for example, figure that if we don't oppose President Bush in EVERY instance, on EVERY issue, at ALL times, then we are racist, bigoted, homophobic, nazis."

True or untrue?

11 posted on 09/20/2003 10:08:16 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (I ask, you decide)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Liberals routinely accuse non-liberals of what they themselves do all the time. Why? They know they think that way and assume everyone else does too!

True. For example, liberals lie ALL the time to push their warped agenda because they assume that everybody does it, especially conservatives. However, everybody does not do it. Liberals also steal. They assume that everybody does it, especially corporations, so to have a leg up on their opposition, they rationalize that it is ok to steal.

12 posted on 09/20/2003 10:19:19 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: Eala
Ken has been a leftist idiot for as long as I can remember. The problem is that liberals do not like the kind of government this country was intended to be. They want a government more like England or Sweden. This makes them un-American. They don't like the values, goals or constitution that this country was founded on.

Ken, If you have a problem, contact your representatives... Mr. Jim McDermott or Senator Murray. A couple of real Americans there.

13 posted on 09/20/2003 10:35:07 AM PDT by Blue Screen of Death
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To: Eala
How Limbaugh, Hanity [SIC]and O'Reilly, for example, figure that if we don't support President Bush in EVERY instance, on EVERY issue, at ALL times, then we are un-American.

I'm willing to bet that this guy never even listens to L, H and O. I don't know about Hannity (we don't get his radio show up here and I can't even look at Colmes), but I know for a fact that Limbaugh and O'Rielly do not agree with all of Dubya's policies.

Seeing as how even the author admits that a whole slew of liberal columnists are spouting this now, I can only assume that Terry MacAwful has re-issued Birry Krinton's 1994 talking points.

14 posted on 09/20/2003 10:36:05 AM PDT by metesky (("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Eala
Joel Connelly and Ellen Goodman...

Sure, two great objective voices there....

15 posted on 09/20/2003 10:45:44 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Eala
We shouldn't be calling Teddy Kennedy a traitor unless we are sure it isn't just the booze talking. Let's be fair.
16 posted on 09/20/2003 10:49:56 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: Eala
"How Limbaugh, Hanity [SIC]and O'Reilly, for example, figure that if we don't support President Bush in EVERY instance, on EVERY issue, at ALL times, then we are un-American."

Well, it's obvious that this moron has no idea what in the hell he's talking about. It isn't the fact that you're speaking out on EVERY issue, at ALL times, it's the fact that you speak out on an issue that affects our TROOPS at a time when we are at WAR!!

17 posted on 09/20/2003 11:17:45 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: Eala
Disagreeing Doesn't Mean We're Un-American

Freedom of speach is not a safe harbor for fabication.

18 posted on 09/20/2003 11:26:03 AM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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To: Eala
Disagreeing Doesn't Mean We're Un-American

Not necessarily.

But of late, increasing obviously yes.
You enjoy stating the obvious?

19 posted on 09/20/2003 11:26:05 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Eala
BTTT
20 posted on 09/20/2003 12:11:27 PM PDT by auboy (The liberals' creed: "If at first you don't succeed, lie, lie again")
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