Posted on 12/29/2005 8:17:39 AM PST by kindred
This isn't too surprising since many Americans claim to be Christian, but haven't a real clue as what it means. Without Christ, all are lost.
If I recall correctly, Mormons teach that American Indians are the 10 lost tribes of Israel. A different kind of replacement??
"Thanks. As I unerstand the term, "replacement theology" is not taught by the Mormons."
On the other hand, to treat the Southern Baptists as not reformed is to ignore both history http://www.grace.org.uk/faith/bc1689/1689bc00.html and modern reality http://www.biblestudyguide.org/study-resources/denominations-sb-calvinists.htm
Not quite. You are thinking of the Book of Mormon, which describes how two small groups migrated from Judea to the Americas about the time of the Babylonian Captivity (ca 600 BC). These groups mixed with other people in the Americas; some of their descendants are among the American Indians today.
The Ten Tribes were carried away captive by the Assyrians earlier (722 BC). The present location of the Ten tribes is unknown to us; however, Mormonism teaches that God will restore them in time.
Isn't the book of Mormon used by Mormons for the basis of their belief system?
I forgot to mention that the Book of Mormon also speaks of another small group that migrated to the Americas about the time of the Tower of Babel. They were not Israelites. Some of their descendants likely exist among the American Indians today.
The Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price are considered as scripture.
Better I believe, to love God and look to repairing the world, than to dwell on this stuff.
LOL the Mormons.They think they are replacing all of Christianity.
"Mormons.They think they are replacing all of Christianity."
Another example of replacement theology?!
I would like to know where believers in the rapture find scriptural support for this doctrine.
Chiliasm leaves me cold.
Study Things to Come by Dwight Pentecost. Its a seminary textbook past used at the Dallas Theological Seminary. Tends towards dispensationalism, but is well balanced in explaing the basis of some other interpretations in eschatology.
Some folks would disagree with your statement here....about not knowing where they are today, but I can tell you from scripture that these ten tribes were known as "Israel", the northern kingdom. The Biblical history of Israel ends in [2Kings 17] except for the prophets. The people occupying the middle east nation called "Israel" today are descendants of the southern kingdom of Judah, [2 Kings 17:18] and became known as Jews.
All throughout the rest of the Old Testament....and the New, you will see prophecy directed to or against both "Israel and Judah". To understand this prophecy make sure you only apply prophecy about "Judah" to the present day, misnamed country of Israel. The rest of the prophecy regarding "Israel" is directed to or against some other group of folks.....to be named later.
There is a very broad distinction in the Bible between these two nations. In fact the very first place you will find the word Jew mentioned in scripture is 2 Kings 16:5-6 and Israel is at war against the Jews. This is one reason why so many folks cannot understand simple prophecy. They are trying to place the wrong events on the wrong people at the wrong time.
Mat 22:39 And a second like unto it is this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
Are you saying that literal Isreal has a place in the end time prophecy? Please elaborate...
You asked rhetorically, "How many scholars in his day expected the Messiah to come as the Suffering Servant?"
Upon what do you base your belief that a lot or most Jewish "scholars" (scribes?) "expected the Messiah to come as the Suffering Servant"?
NO - you misunderstood what I said. They read the suffering servant passage as being about the people of Israel as a whole, rather than being about the Messiah.
They thought, according to what I have read, the Suffering Servant referred to the experiences of exile, then restoration.
The idea I was saying is:
God fulfills prophecies the way God fulfills prophecies. It is possible to have an entire concept that makes sense put together, but that doesn't mean that's the way God reads it.
God is the master, and we are here, doing his will, if we love him. You can be sure He will fulfill the prophecies exactly the way he has in mind, and don't be surprised if that's not exactly the way others thought it ought to have been done.
I use to think I understood the end times, but now it really is mysterious to me. I don't see it as allegorical, but as truth. I avoid taking too much interest in it, but that doesn't mean that I don't believe it to be truth.
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