Posted on 12/31/2005 5:12:35 AM PST by Popman
visit any theological SEMANARY.....
/Narnia pagan nonsense
I think he was saying in a nice gibberish sort of way, that "many conservative and evangelical households" are just like the heathens down the street.
Is your cat using your computer this morning?
These men have twisted Scripture into something alien; something that in their own minds gives them license to lord over women their superior physical strength and in the process, terrorize their families into cowering, fearful, unhappy victims. These are men who generally have very low self-esteem, have issues with women that have not been resolved through therapy, and derive enormous satisfaction from behaving like power nazis in their own homes- the only place where the behavior is tolerated.
These are men who are living in sin- they are not living according to the Scriptural mandates for the roles of men and women in marriage, but according to their own fantasies of the "lowly" status of women, and their own perceived superiority.
Nowhere in Scripture can any validation of this behavior be found. I hope that your friend's situation can be made better at some point. She may have to leave the jerk.
OH! I get it!
Could be. I think he makes some reasonable points, and that, often, "mutual submission, negotiation and consensus" is code for "the man doesn't want to be bothered with the minutiae of life, like the credit card bill and the children's education."
Right, but it seems to contradict Moore.
Where exactly in the article does Moore contradict the principles of Ephesians?
Bear in mind, Moore is using these terms in the context of the way feminist use them.
These terms has semantic meaning to the radical feminist that are far different than the avg person.............which he should have pointed out.
It is being made better. She served him with divorce papers. He skipped the meeting with the judge and left the state with one of the kids.
And the judge threw the book at him.
That's a good point. Too much negotiation and consensus is just a waste of time, in my opinion. Many issues aren't worth the effort. If everything is being negotiated and compromised, that could indicate a power struggle in the marriage, which is certainly not the Biblical model.
I tend to disagree with using "feminism" as an explanation, though, because that suggests that men have no opportunity to take responsibility for their families, when they do. While it's true that some men are abusive and use religion as their excuse, and some are (in my opinion) overcontrolling out of genuinely loving motives, there are many who have made the choice not to make an effort outside their jobs and hobbies.
"These men have twisted Scripture into something alien; something that in their own minds gives them license to lord over women their superior physical strength and in the process, terrorize their families into cowering, fearful, unhappy victims. These are men who generally have very low self-esteem, have issues with women that have not been resolved through therapy, and derive enormous satisfaction from behaving like power nazis in their own homes- the only place where the behavior is tolerated.
These are men who are living in sin- they are not living according to the Scriptural mandates for the roles of men and women in marriage, but according to their own fantasies of the "lowly" status of women, and their own perceived superiority."
Perversely just like Muslims.
Something that needs to be kept front-and-center, IMO. The same passage which calls on wives to submit to their husbands also calls on husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the Church. My wife is called upon to submit to my headship. I'm called upon to be crucified for her.
"Could we please re-negotiate this package, honey? I'm not sure this trade is as fair as I thought it'd be ..."
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