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To: kosta50; HarleyD; jo kus; Agrarian; Kolokotronis
Well, it's a step ahead of biblical bats being called fowl, or mustard seed being the smallest seed or mustard plant a tree.

So when man decides to re-re-classify the animal and plant kingdoms, and some of those re-classifications match scripture, then you will change your mind and agree that God did know what He was talking about, at least on some things? I'm curious, since you say that the Bible is historically flawed and imperfect, do you say that Tradition is perfect, or is it also flawed? Did God leave us anything that is perfect, or is all of our knowledge of God littered with errors?

Next time you get sick, please don't call a doctor. In fact, don't even use Internet, or cell phones, or fly by airplanes. Obviously, all of these are scientific "traps" that belie the truth. The truth is, of course, that bats are fowl because the Bible says so, right?

I have no problem with science, I appreciate God's gifts. I have a problem when men trust science before they trust God. You have said that the Bible is filled with factual errors because it does not match the science of 2006. I am sure that others of different times have said the same thing, but for very different reasons. So will our legacies. If you believe the Bible is HOLY, you are elevating man's current standards of science above God. If you believe the Bible is HOLY, you are declaring God wrong because man decided to call things by different names. This does not make sense. How can you attempt to hold the view that the Bible is HOLY by explaining that it is filled with errors?

4,352 posted on 04/03/2006 11:07:23 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper
Did God leave us anything that is perfect, or is all of our knowledge of God littered with errors?

Everything He made, including us, was made good, if I remember my Scripture. The error had to come from somewhere -- I would say it was us by abusing our freedom, which you deny so in your case it is something God "ordained."

In the fallen humanity, everything we know, including our faith, is flawed. And that includes our understanding of the Scripture -- or else we would not be having this discussion. Unless, of course, you believe that you are without a flaw and we are full of them.

I have no problem with science, I appreciate God's gifts. I have a problem when men trust science before they trust God

The two are not "miscible." You trust science because science produces results on demand. If you don't believe in gravity, jump off a tall building and you will believe. Trusting God comes from the heart; it requires faith, indeed hope, without a proof of experiment or reason, but only of experience. Trusting the unknown and the invisible is a different kind of faith altogether.

4,358 posted on 04/04/2006 4:01:20 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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