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To: CynicalBear

The Catholic church is repeating the testimony of the Church fathers that the Blessed Virgin remained ever-virgin. THAT’S the Catholic doctrine.

Anepsios is a Greek word with no Aramaic equivalent. Colossians was written in Greek, by someone who spoke Greek, writing to Greeks. Mark is quoting Jesus, who spoke Aramaic.

Greek Orthodox doesn’t like the notion that there could be any distinction between the gospels’ translations into Greek and native Greek. Therefore, they resolve the notion that Mary was ever-Virgin and Jesus had “adelphoi” by insisting that Joseph was a remarried widower; therefore Jesus would have older half-brothers. Catholics find no historical basis for this, so it’s not their preferred way of resolving this, but they do not regard the Greek notion as heretical. They do regard the notion that Jesus had younger brothers as contrary to the doctrine of the perpetual virginity of Mary.


15 posted on 01/15/2015 6:41:53 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
You mean like this?

“James the Lord’s brother.” (Eusebius, Book 2, Chapter 1:3)

or this?

“Jude…the Lord’s brother according to the flesh.” (Eusebius, Book 3, Chapter 20:1)

Then we even have secular historians.

“James, the brother of Jesus called the Christ” (Josephus, Antiquities XX, 200)

>>Therefore, they resolve the notion that Mary was ever-Virgin and Jesus had “adelphoi” by insisting that Joseph was a remarried widower<<

Oh?

Against this doctrine (Mary’s lifetime virginity) the objection is sometimes raised that the Bible mentions brothers and sisters of Jesus. The Church has always understood these passages as not referring to other children of the Virgin Mary. In fact James and Joseph, "brothers of Jesus", are the sons of another Mary, a disciple of Christ, whom St. Matthew significantly calls "the other Mary". They are close relations of Jesus, according to an Old Testament expression. (¶500, Page 126, Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1994)

Wait,,,,,,what??? So now Joseph was married to two Mary's at the same time? Or did he divorce the "other Mary"? Or was this "other Mary" of Matthew ......wait, are you sensing what I'm sensing here? Oh what a tangled web they weave.

>>They do regard the notion that Jesus had younger brothers as contrary to the doctrine of the perpetual virginity of Mary.<<

I'll bet they do!! And they don't even care what scripture has to say on the subject.

18 posted on 01/15/2015 8:12:05 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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