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How would Jesus Immigrate?
Bible.com and other links | Kenneth Wallis

Posted on 03/24/2006 11:55:00 AM PST by pulaskibush

What Christians should do regarding illegal immigration has been an ongoing debate for a long time. Recently, Christianity was entered into the debate over immigration bills being worked on in the US Congress by Senator Hillary Clinton. Hillary basically advanced the argument that opposing illegal immigration is "un-Christian" and claimed that such enforcement would be the same as making the Good Samaritan and Jesus criminals. Missing from Hillary's comments were quotes from the Bible. While immigration from Mexico is of course not mentioned, there are issues that illegal immigration bring up that are mentioned in the Bible.


1. Taxes
Matthew 22:14-17 14And they came up and said to Him, Teacher, we know that You are sincere and what You profess to be, that You cannot lie, and that You have no personal bias for anyone; for You are not influenced by partiality and have no regard for anyone's external condition or position, but in [and on the basis of] truth You teach the way of God. Is it lawful (permissible and right) to give tribute (poll taxes) to Caesar or not? 15Should we pay [them] or should we not pay [them]? But knowing their hypocrisy, He asked them, why do you put me to the test? Bring me a coin (a denarius), so I may see it. 16And they brought [Him one]. Then He asked them, whose image (picture) is this? And whose superscription (title)? They said to Him, Caesar's. 17Jesus said to them, Pay to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's. And they stood marveling and greatly amazed at Him.

Romans 13:5-8 5Therefore one must be subject, not only to avoid God's wrath and escape punishment, but also as a matter of principle and for the sake of conscience. 6For this same reason you pay taxes, for [the civil authorities] are official servants under God, devoting themselves to attending to this very service. 7Render to all men their dues. [Pay] taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, and honor to whom honor is due. 8Keep out of debt and owe no man anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor [who practices loving others] has fulfilled the Law [relating to one's fellowmen, meeting all its requirements].

Matthew 17:24-27 24When they arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of the half shekel [the temple tax] went up to Peter and said, Does not your Teacher pay the half shekel?(C) 25He answered, Yes. And when he came home, Jesus spoke to him [about it] first, saying, what do you think, Simon? From whom do earthly rulers collect duties or tribute--from their own sons or from others [k]not of their own family? 26And when Peter said, from other people [l]not of their own family, Jesus said to him, then the sons are exempt. 27However, in order not to give offense and cause them to stumble [that is, to cause them [m]to judge unfavorably and unjustly] go down to the sea and throw in a hook. Take the first fish that comes up, and when you open its mouth you will find there a shekel. Take it and give it to them to pay the temple tax for me and for yourself.

Luke 10:33-35
33But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, took him to an inn and took care of him. 35The next day he took out two silver coins[e] and gave them to the innkeeper. 'Look after him,' he said, 'and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.'

US citizens are required to pay sales and income tax. Many illegals only pay sales tax and are hired by businesses for the purpose of paying their share of the taxes. US Taxpayer money is supposed to pay for government services to US Citizens. Instead, millions of taxpayer dollars go to people who should not even be in the country. Hillary used the Sunday school story character The Good Samaritan in her statement about Christians and illegals. Hillary, along with many illegal immigrant advocates fails to realize that the Samaritan did not use someone else’s money to take care of the robbery victim, but his own.


2. Citizenship
Exodus 23:31-33 "I will establish your borders from the Red Sea [a] to the Sea of the Philistines, [b] and from the desert to the River. [c] I will hand over to you the people who live in the land and you will drive them out before you. 32 Do not make a covenant with them or with their gods. 33 Do not let them live in your land, or they will cause you to sin against me, because the worship of their gods will certainly be a snare to you."

Luke 1: 1At that time the Roman emperor, Augustus, decreed that a census should be taken throughout the Roman Empire. 2(This was the first census taken when Quirinius was governor of Syria.) 3All returned to their own towns to register for this census. 4And because Joseph was a descendant of King David, he had to go to Bethlehem in Judea, David's ancient home. He traveled there from the village of Nazareth in Galilee.

Acts 22:25-29

25As they tied Paul down to lash him, Paul said to the officer standing there, "Is it legal for you to whip a Roman citizen who hasn't even been tried?"26The officer went to the commander and asked, "What are you doing? This man is a Roman citizen!" 27So the commander went over and asked Paul, "Tell me, are you a Roman citizen?" "Yes, I certainly am," Paul replied. 28"I am, too," the commander muttered, "and it cost me plenty!" "But I am a citizen by birth!" 29The soldiers who were about to interrogate Paul quickly withdrew when they heard he was a Roman citizen, and the commander was frightened because he had ordered him bound and whipped.

Even the right to live in heaven is described as "citizenship" Ephesians 2-19 19So now you Gentiles are no longer strangers and foreigners. You are citizens along with all of God's holy people. You are members of God's family.

Being an illegal immigrant is just becoming better than being Citizen of the United States of America. In some states, such as Kansas, illegals can get in-state tuition for college that is not available to US citizens going to another state. There are also several taxpayer funded programs that are available to illegals that are not available to US Citizens. Citizenship is supposed to be a great honor. Legal immigrants work hard to learn English and study our constitution to become US Citizens. Many legal immigrants risk death by joining the military in order to become citizens. The illegal immigrant agenda wants to cheat this honor with backdoor deals and amnesties.


3. Government Corruption
Passage Deuteronomy 16:19: 19 Do not pervert justice or show partiality. Do not accept a bribe, for a bribe blinds the eyes of the wise and twists the words of the righteous.

1 Samuel 8:3 But his sons did not walk in his ways. They turned aside after dishonest gain and accepted bribes and perverted justice.

Proverbs 17:23 A wicked man accepts a bribe in secret to pervert the course of justice.

Acts 24:26 24Several days later Felix came with his wife Drusilla, who was a Jewess. He sent for Paul and listened to him as he spoke about faith in Christ Jesus. 25As Paul discoursed on righteousness, self-control and the judgment to come, Felix was afraid and said, "That's enough for now! You may leave. When I find it convenient, I will send for you." 26At the same time he was hoping that Paul would offer him a bribe, so he sent for him frequently and talked with him. 27When two years had passed, Felix was succeeded by Porcius Festus, but because Felix wanted to grant a favor to the Jews, he left Paul in prison.

Daniel 6:4 At this, the administrators and the satraps tried to find grounds for charges against Daniel in his conduct of government affairs, but they were unable to do so. They could find no corruption in him, because he was trustworthy and neither corrupt nor negligent.

Matthew 23:1-4 1Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

Luke 2:46 Jesus replied, "And you experts in the law, woe to you, because you load people down with burdens they can hardly carry, and you yourselves will not lift one finger to help them.

While pro-illegal immigrant Christians claim to help illegal immigrants, they do nothing to stop the cause of the suffering; corruption. The Mexican Government is well known for its corruption and negligence toward its people. When the Negligent Narco Regime of Mexico ignored hundreds of murders in Juarez, we heard virtually nothing from these Christian organizations that claim to help hispanics. Nor do we hear any demand that the Mexican Government pay for housing, healthcare, education, and other necessities that the Mexican government is supposed to provide Mexicans. That burden has been put upon the American taxpayer thanks to Hispanic activist groups such as the lawyers of MALDEF. These Christian organizations could also put pressure on corrupt businesses such as Tyson Foods to stop hiring illegals and breaking US law, instead they help corrupt businesses by helping the trafficking of illegals. Helping illegal immigration also helps the human/drug trafficing business, which enslaves and abuses the neglected citizens of other countries. It is not Christian to be a useful idiot of evil.


4. “helping the poor”
Luke 14:13 But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind,

Matthew 23:5-7 5"Everything they(Pharisees) do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them 'Rabbi.'

John 12:3-8 3Then Mary took about a pint[a] of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus' feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. 4But one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, 5"Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages." 6He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it. 7"Leave her alone," Jesus replied. " It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. 8You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me." Peter 4 : 14If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. 15If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler. 16However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.

Luke 14:13 is one of the many verses that say to help the poor. However, there are other verses in the Bible that deal with many of the “bleeding heart types” that twist the act of helping the poor into their own agenda. Many people “help the poor” to make an effort to draw attention to themselves. Many in the illegal immigration agenda claim to help the poor so that they can advance the ideas of multiculturalism, “Aztlan” (the racist Hispanic succession of the Southwest from the United States), socialist equality, and similar agendas. To criticize their agenda is portrayed as being “mean” to those in poverty. There are also those who think that it’s OK to break the law if you are “helping the poor”, the Bible states otherwise.


5. Negligence
Exodus 21:28-29 28 "If a bull gores a man or a woman to death, the bull must be stoned to death, and its meat must not be eaten. But the owner of the bull will not be held responsible. 29 If, however, the bull has had the habit of goring and the owner has been warned but has not kept it penned up and it kills a man or woman, the bull must be stoned and the owner also must be put to death.

2 Chronicles 29:8-11 8 Therefore, the anger of the LORD has fallen on Judah and Jerusalem; he has made them an object of dread and horror and scorn, as you can see with your own eyes. 9 This is why our fathers have fallen by the sword and why our sons and daughters and our wives are in captivity. 10 Now I intend to make a covenant with the LORD, the God of Israel, so that his fierce anger will turn away from us. 11 My sons, do not be negligent now, for the LORD has chosen you to stand before him and serve him, to minister before him and to burn incense."

Many of those who enter this country illegally are criminals, diseased, and even terrorist. What will be the excuse if one of the illegals being housed in a church becomes the next Denver Cop Killer? If activist help some illegals crossing the border, who turn out to have the bird flu, will the activists not be partially responsible for the negligent homicide of 1,000’s? Being Christian does not mean giving food, clothing, and shelter from the law to the next Mohammed Atta. When illegal immigrants cause harm in the US, those who help them share some of the blame.


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To: AnalogReigns
When I see crowds of protestors waving Mexican flags in the USA, it tells me these people are NOT here to become American, rather are wanting America to become Mexican...not the kind of immigrants we need.

Are you prepared to live in Mexico and work for Mexican wages? Better get used to it in Bush-Fox-Clinton's Amerika.

21 posted on 03/25/2006 11:47:39 PM PST by stboz
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?

Jesus is God.


22 posted on 03/26/2006 8:25:08 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: dfwgator

Actually He has left New Orleans and is headed to LA. So you got to know your rider.
(You'r showing your age)


23 posted on 03/26/2006 10:23:52 AM PST by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: ArrogantBustard

Yes He is God. Although at that time He was taken to Egypt upon direction of His Father. He was under the authority of His Father. (Not My will but Your will be done.) That is unless you've been reading some of the baby gospels


24 posted on 03/26/2006 10:28:10 AM PST by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
Actually He has left New Orleans and is headed to LA. So you got to know your rider

Well it was somewhere out in California, at least.

25 posted on 03/26/2006 11:26:30 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Keep Your Lamps Trimmed and Burning


26 posted on 03/26/2006 11:28:49 AM PST by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?

What are you talking about? baby gospels?


27 posted on 03/27/2006 12:15:35 AM PST by Nooseman (--mart)
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To: Nooseman

They are part of the lost books of the bible that did not muster up to cannon, there is the baby gospel (in that gospel Jesus as a child would kill His childhood friends and then raise them up to life) the gospel of Mary and many others go to your local library and look up a book call the lost books of the bible.


28 posted on 03/27/2006 12:23:32 AM PST by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: pulaskibush

Jesus isn't planning to immigrate. He's planning an invasion. Called The Second Coming. Heads up -- He'll be descending through the clouds and taking up residence in the land of His birth.


29 posted on 03/27/2006 12:43:19 AM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: pulaskibush

Does this mean Hillary was unChristian when she encouraged Janet Reno and Bill to remove Elian Gonzalez from US soil?


30 posted on 03/27/2006 2:57:54 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: Cvengr

The law allows for Cuban refugees to be granted asylum from the Communist regime. Elain wasn't given back to his father, he was given back to a Socialist Regime.


31 posted on 03/27/2006 3:07:55 PM PST by pulaskibush (USA, founded by tolerant Christians. USSR, founded by intolerant Secularist.)
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To: GretchenM
How would Jesus Immigrate refers to how he would behave if he were in theory on earth at this time, similar to What Would Jesus Do.

In the end times, many in the Mexican Government and illegal immigrant agenda will be left behind to pay for their sins.

32 posted on 03/27/2006 3:24:13 PM PST by pulaskibush (USA, founded by tolerant Christians. USSR, founded by intolerant Secularist.)
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To: pulaskibush

I knew that.

I wanted a chance to mention that some day He's going to rule this place and when the government is on HIS shoulders, it's going to be a different way of life.


33 posted on 03/27/2006 4:13:32 PM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: pulaskibush

Self-ping to read later.


34 posted on 03/28/2006 2:56:07 PM PST by Nea Wood (Is cheap, illegal labor worth one life?)
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