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Team believes it found Noah's Ark (In Iran)
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 6/30/06 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 06/30/2006 8:26:43 AM PDT by DannyTN

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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

He fed them unicorns.


41 posted on 06/30/2006 9:19:24 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: RightWhale
"Petrified animals? 1. Why were animals left aboard the Ark?

I think it's referring to petrified marine animals. Aparently when the cut open one of the "rock" samples that proved to be petrified wood, a marine fossil was found inside. I don't know what that would be. Could a small marine animal burrow into the wood? or find a crack or a knothole? Maybe it's just a shell.

2. How long does it take to petrify animals?
3. Was anything ever pertified without being buried in mineral soil?

I don't know. It depends on the conditions. Here are some articles on rapid petrification but they don't address animals.
Rapid Petrification of Wood: An Unexpected Confirmation of Creationist Research
Tarawera’s night of terror

42 posted on 06/30/2006 9:20:10 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: RightWhale
Where it came from?


What kind of answer is that?


The amount of water on the earth is constant and even if you were to melt the ice caps sea level would not rise 14,000 feet.

I wonder what the temperature of the earth would have to be in order to melt all that ice?
43 posted on 06/30/2006 9:21:08 AM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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How many animals would have been on the ark and how much space would they need with a food supply to sustain them and caretakers? And how many shovels did they find?

Great flood? Sure....happens all the time. Load a ship with 2 animals of every kind (that you own?) or (in the world???)....yeh, that'll make you remember the story!! But clarify it....Two chickens and two goats??

And where would Noah's Ark be heading when the flood came??

The story is about as clear as documenting all the ships lost in the Caribbean so long ago. "Historical fiction."

44 posted on 06/30/2006 9:22:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
The amount of water on the earth is constant

There is the story. I didn't write it. There aren't many fables that follow all epistemological rules.

45 posted on 06/30/2006 9:23:48 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Dog Gone
"How would the ark petrify? It would have to be covered in sediment for eons while subsurface minerals gradually replaced the wood."

You may wish to believe that, but it is quite illogical. Most species of wood decompose fairly rapidly, say a hundred years at the very outside, but more likely much less, thus the preservation of grain patterns has to occur contemporaneously or it would not look like wood.

Petrified fence post bases are fairly common where fence lines cross streams in flat areas. They have been accepted in court in Nevada as boundary evidence.

46 posted on 06/30/2006 9:25:56 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Sacajaweau
Keeping predator from prey on the Ark must have been quite the task.
47 posted on 06/30/2006 9:26:30 AM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: DannyTN

Could be marine fossils. It was surprising to this kid to find the soil of some parts of the eatern US to be almost entirely marine fossils. Considering how slowly the land rises usually, it would be hard to even guess how long ago that was part of seabed.


48 posted on 06/30/2006 9:28:48 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: editor-surveyor

You're still not explaining how the ark got buried.


49 posted on 06/30/2006 9:29:32 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: RightWhale
1. Why were animals left aboard the Ark?

*The Ark animals left but their kids went back. You know how kids are...

2. How long does it take to petrify animals?

*It is documented that at the San Diego Zoo an elephant went belly-up and became instantaneously petrified.when Barbra Streisand walked past. (Admittedly, that was unusual)

3. Was anything ever pertified without being buried in mineral soil?

*Yes. Lot's wife, who, by the way, is STILL more attractive than Barbra Streisand

50 posted on 06/30/2006 9:32:04 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: Red Badger

http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/09/the_2004_democr.php


51 posted on 06/30/2006 9:33:53 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
Where did all the water go after the flood? What did Noah feed to the lions and tigers during his voyage? As I understand it both have hearty appetites.

How did those cute little koala bears get to and from Australia without getting eaten and without any Eucalyptus trees along the way for food? Or did the "flood" not reach Australia, North and South America, Antarctica? Not to mention anywhere in Asia, Europe, Africa, or anywhere else detectable.

52 posted on 06/30/2006 9:34:20 AM PDT by balrog666 (There is no freedom like knowledge, no slavery like ignorance. - Ali ibn Ali-Talib)
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To: PatrickHenry
The group, led by explorer Bob Cornuke, found an unusual object perched on a slope 13,120 feet above sea level.

That's just about the level that takes a doubling of the Earth's water to reach, assuming the mountain was as high 5000 years ago as now. Where did that much water come from? Where did it go?

Why bother? The usual sillies from the people whose thought balloons cannot be popped by any dose of reality whatsoever.

53 posted on 06/30/2006 9:34:53 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV
"What did Noah feed to the lions and tigers during his voyage? As I understand it both have hearty appetites."

It's probable that instead of mature large animals that Noah took younger animals.

It's also possible that Noah might have only had one pair of "Cat" on board from which several large cats including Tigers and Lions descended.

And if you believe that "God brought the animals to Noah", instead of Noah scurrying around collecting animals. Then it's also possible that God caused the animals to go into some form of hibernation.

For a picture of lion cubs nursing at a mother sow, see the following. Lions and Pigs lie down together

54 posted on 06/30/2006 9:35:08 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: bornacatholic

The pillar of salt was still there during Roman times. It was a tourist attraction. It might still be there even now, but the location has been forgotten. It might have been in Persia, which doesn't narrow the search all that much.


55 posted on 06/30/2006 9:35:09 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Dog Gone
"You're still not explaining how the ark got buried."

In the photo, the formation is not really buried to any great extent, but it must be noted that there is considerable gravel, both fractured as well as round. The tectonic movements that were responsible for the recession of the water could likely still have been active enough to cause changes after the ark was abandoned.

56 posted on 06/30/2006 9:36:02 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: PatrickHenry
I shouldn't ping the evolution list for something like this. Especially because it's not in the News forum. But I'll ping a few ...

Thanks a bunch. Ping me again when they find another Atlantis.

57 posted on 06/30/2006 9:36:07 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Dimensio
This of course is not a trait universal to creationists, and I cannot even say with certainty that it is a common behavior amongst most of them, but I have observed it within enough creationists to see that it is more than an isolated case.

It's exceedingly common. You have to be doing some very funny mental gymnastics to be a YEC in the face of the evidence today. What you have observed is part of how they do it.

58 posted on 06/30/2006 9:37:56 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: DannyTN
And if you believe that "God brought the animals to Noah", instead of Noah scurrying around collecting animals. Then it's also possible that God caused the animals to go into some form of hibernation.

It's magic, magic!

Well, hell, why do you even need a boat then? Why not float them on a cloud and rain beer down on them?

Oh, wait, make that a beer volcano! Ramen!

59 posted on 06/30/2006 9:38:36 AM PDT by balrog666 (There is no freedom like knowledge, no slavery like ignorance. - Ali ibn Ali-Talib)
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To: Dog Gone
Was there another flood after Noah's flood that buried the ark?

*Famed Darwinist, and temper-tantrumist, Earl Weaver, mistaking the Ark for an intergalactic Home Plate, kicked sand all over it.

60 posted on 06/30/2006 9:40:03 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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