Posted on 10/05/2006 7:44:07 PM PDT by Coleus
St. Anthony’s in West Orange has been perverted by the diocese. There is no Truth there. They have even started DISTRIBUTING COMMUNION IN THE HAND. The people of St. Anthony’s in West Orange are in a schism. They are like a piece of fruit in a barrel of rotten fruit. Eventually the rottenness will infect them.
The only protestants are the Novus Ordo (those so called Catholics that practice the Vatican II mass). They are the ones that made up a brand new mass in 1967, Changing the words of the Gospel from “Many” to “all”, Communion in hand, and a wishy-washy theology handed down by these last four popes, who are actually NON-popes. You can not be the true Pope of the Church of Jesus Christ if you go into a Muslim temple and kiss the Koran as John Paul II did. He told them there were “All paths to heaven” and that “They were all praying to the same God.” In other words, he said that they didn’t need Jesus. What kind of Vicar of Christ would say such a thing?
Benedict has said similar things. These Popes are heretics. It’s not for them TO MAKE UP NEW DOCTRINE, but to ADHERE TO THE TRADITIONS OF THE CHURCH. Therefore, the only TRUE place for salvation is St. Anthony’s in North Caldwell. We are independent from the diocese. We uphold the traditions of the church handed down to us by St. Peter himself.
I urge all Traditional Catholics to come to St. Anthony’s in North Caldwell and receive the true sacraments and graces intended in the mass. You will not receive the true Sacraments in West Orange because it is perverted by the diocese. Father Paul Wickens hated the diocese. They scorned him and humiliated him for years. After he died they cowardly came in through the back door, as Satan often does.
Come to St. Anthony’s in North Caldwell, and you won’t have to worry about things like homosexual priests and questionable doctrine.
I love the Lord, and I love His true Church, and that is why I go to St. Anthony’s in North Caldwell. I urge all Traditional Catholics to do the same, and leave the PROTESTANT NOVUS ORDO IN WEST ORANGE.
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Ping to post #22. There are some accusations you may want to answer.
Would you still say that if a traditional order of priests like the FSSP or Institute of Christ the King took over there?
I see this as so much quibbling over deck-chair position--not on the Titanic, where it wouldn't matter, but on a rescue ship that must survive. Put that chair down and tend to the ones we are supposed to be saving!
That is a patent lie. Strike one. It is clear that you have not set foot in St. Anthony's. You might want to review the Commandment that says "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."
It is amusing that you want nothing to do with the Archdiocese of Newark, yet it bothers you so much that the Archdiocese has stated publicly that your church is not recognized by them.
You will not receive the true Sacraments in West Orange
Another patent lie. Strike two.
the PROTESTANT NOVUS ORDO IN WEST ORANGE.
If you are referring to St. Anthony's in West Orange, then that is strike three. You're out.
If you want to honor Fr. Wickens legacy, honor his Last Will and Testament and his decision to reconcile his chapel with the Archdiocese of Newark. Obedience to legitmate Roman Catholic Church authority is not forbidden to those in the Church. B-XVI is pope. John Myers is Archbishop. No one died and left the schism in charge of anything. No one ever will.
I’m always amazed at these hubris of these Catholics who believe they are more Catholic than the Pope.
I don't understand why traditionalists have a problem with this. Isn't this the way the Apostles received it at the Last Supper, from Jesus Himself?
The Apostles were priests.
There is also a legend which claims the Shroud of Turin was first used to cover the table at the Last Supper. There are supposedly wine stains at periodic intervals on the cloth supporting the Middle Eastern custom where a host would feed his guests the first bite and drink of food.
Hello Bambi.
Miss me? :-)
Since y'all have had little to say for several months, are you getting ready for another round of Angelus posts in which you attempt to mislead actual Catholics into schism and excommunication (see the justice meted out in Ecclesia Dei by John Paul II) to join the miserable cult of love slaves of Marcel the Insubordinate?
I don't miss you or any of you or any of your terminally offended infernal tastes any more than I miss Marcel or anyone else of his ilk, Debbie DoWrong.
Not at the time, they weren't. They became so when the Holy Spirit came upon them in the Upper Room, and they were 'anointed as with fire' to go out and preach the Word of God to the whole world.
If we can be reverent enough to take the Body of Christ into our mouths, why are we not able to take Him into our hands? The whole idea of only considering Communion by mouth as valid seems a little Pharisaic to me.
So the Mass that the Pope celebrates each day is not valid? See what I mean by considering yourselves to be more Catholic than the Pope?
Whatever lies and half-truths (like dishonestly truncated documents from Msgr. Perle) the schismatics may post here, they were excommunicated and declared in schism by John Paul II in Ecclesia Dei in 1988. They rely on the Vatican recognition that the excommunicated schismatic priests (although suspended a divinis) say valid Masses that will satisfy Catholic Mass obligations, confect a valid Eucharist and that actual Catholics may defray the expenses of SSPX Masses they attend. They fail to mention the lack of faculties of the SSPX priests to hear confessions or preside at weddings in the religious sense. No allegiance to a territorial ordinary or other approved religious superior (which the excommunicated SSPX bishops certainly are not) means no authority (except in genuine emergencies such as the penitent is imminently about to die not an "emergency" like Marcel LeFebvre's followers' tastes have been offended and that darn pope just WILL NOT obey the illustrious them) to hear confessions or do numerous other things. They have no permission to say Mass and their Masses are valid but illicit.
All that having been said, the idea of Communion in the hand was a questionable prudential judgment. The notion that only the consecrated fingers of the priest are fit to handle the Body and Blood of Christ is certainly a reverent notion. We believe that the consecrated Host has literally become the Body and Blood of our Savior permanently under the continued appearances of bread and wine. Handing the Host from hand to hand and person to person inevitably means that particles are dropped. This is not reverent. Some Catholics seem to think that they are second class citizens of the Church unless they can do the things that priests do. This type of thought ought not to be encouraged and is quite untraditional. Like altar girls, Communion in the hand is provocative and angers actual traditionalists as well as the schismatic malcontents. We gain by abolishing it and lose nothing worth saving by abolishing it.
The apostles were priests and, indeed, bishops. The probability is that loaves of bread were used at The Last Supper but that does not seem to be a good idea today and would violate the Church's rules on what constitutes valid matter to be consecrated. Peter holds the keys and passes them to each successor pope. Jesus Christ made that the rule and the popes have regulated as to Communion.
Orthodox Jews have a concept which they call "building a fence around Torah" by which they mean that, to avoid sinning against the injunctions of Torah, one should not "play chicken" and flirt with the boundaries. Instead, one should make sure that there is always territory between one's behavior and sinfulness. We ought not to burn our margins by such practices as Communion in the hand.
The Host, validly consecrated, is also necessary to Black Satanic Cult Masses. Fortunately, the Satanists have access to few cooperative actual priests. With Communion in the hand, Satanists can steal Hosts for their grisly purposes as easily as other folks palm cards or cheat at games. I have witnessed, as next in the Communion line, two women caught in the act by a now dead liberal Dominican priest, Fr. Shanley, at St. Mary's Church in New Haven, CT and have no doubt that there have been many other instances in that and other churches. We do not need this. Either we believe in the Real Presence or we do not. I do. I have no doubt that you do from the many fine and Catholic posts you have offered on this website. We have to act always consistent with our knowledge of the Real Presence.
God bless you and yours.
Yes, Christ gave the Apostles the power to say Mass when he instituted the Sacrament at the Last Supper. That made them priests. It’s in the catechism ‘My Catholic Faith.’
Only a complete break from such Heretic men will stop their perversion from infecting our Faith. That is why there is NO SALVATION other than the Traditional Catholic Church independent from the diocese. That is why you should come to North Caldwell.
And about the DISTRIBUTING COMMUNION IN HAND at the St. Anthony’s in West Orange, They in fact DID GIVE COMMUNION IN HAND AT A FUNERAL MASS. That’s just the beginning. It’s only a matter of time before they start a Novus Ordo mass as part of the Curriculum in West Orange.
Ah, there's something we only see so often on here. YOPIOCT (Your Own Personal Interpretation of Catholic Tradition).
. To follow these men, you would HAVE TO be a heretic.
You've heard of the term "rash judgement" before?
If he shagged the maids, fathered illegitimate children, sodomized the Swiss Guard and shot 5 cardinals, he'd still be Pope. Not a very good model to imitate but he'd still be the Successor of St. Peter.
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