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WHAT IS THE NATURE OF CHRISTIAN LOVE? --It's full depth and breadth
Quix | 23 APR 2007 | Quix

Posted on 04/23/2007 11:18:16 AM PDT by Quix

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To: Quix
IRON SHARPENING IRON in Scriptural terms
OFTEN involves lots of sparks and heat.

Proverbs 27:17 Iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.

I am constantly amazed at the vast number of people who believe that 'iron sharpening iron' refers to conflicts.

When sharpening two iron blades together it is not a matter of hacking and banging the two together in conflict. It is instead running the two blades down the entire length of each other at an exacting angle in a very harmonic and unified way over and over. Anything else does not sharpen, but instead dulls. When done correctly both blades are sharpened at the same time. When iron sharpens iron, both change to become more productive for His kingdom.

We are to be sharpened, and to sharpen others, in order to advance the Kingdom of God. Whether we are talking about a knife, a sword or ourselves, sharpening isn’t done for a passive activity. A blade is sharpened to accomplish a purpose. Christians need sharpening to be effective in the spiritual battle against sin surrounding us, not to battle each other.

41 posted on 04/23/2007 9:33:26 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations. So should you.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Gamecock; HarleyD; airborne; American in Israel; AnimalLover; auggy; backhoe; ...

PERSONAL REQUEST PERSONAL PING TO CONSIDER VOTING RE POST #36 INFLUENCING MY WRITING/POSTING STYLE.


42 posted on 04/23/2007 9:35:42 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Quix
I do not resonate with your allegation of what I've done. I do not believe I've done that, at all.

I made no allegation against you. In fact, my post did not even mention you.

43 posted on 04/23/2007 9:37:03 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Quix
The accuser of the brethren is cast down..
Choose your battles carefully and win or lose with dignity..
44 posted on 04/23/2007 9:37:21 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Between the Lines

Wonderful points.

I’m not sure sparks never occur, however.

Thanks Bro.


45 posted on 04/23/2007 9:37:43 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Campion

True. I was inferring.

So, you did not have me in mind, at all? 0.00%?


46 posted on 04/23/2007 9:38:57 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: hosepipe

Praise God for the accuser being cast down.

I’m not sure I have a lot of dignity. Has often seemed like an ill-fitting garment, to me.

Much appreciate all your inputs.


47 posted on 04/23/2007 9:40:07 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Quix
My prayerful conviction is that fierceness is always "counterproductive, more destructive than fruitful for Kingdom of God.":

A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. - Proverbs 15:1


48 posted on 04/23/2007 9:45:04 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

THanks much.

Your vote counts for about 10, at least, in my book.


49 posted on 04/23/2007 9:47:17 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: hosepipe

Not absolutely certain how to classify your vote! LOL.


50 posted on 04/23/2007 9:48:15 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Quix

You’re quite welcome, dear brother in Christ!


51 posted on 04/23/2007 9:48:38 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix

No Quix, your satirical fierce dramatizations, are not “counterproductive, more destructive than fruitful.”

They are pointed and effective and useful for illustrating what you are trying to say.

Keep up the good work.

jm


52 posted on 04/23/2007 9:50:20 PM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Did you understand, have any added discernment re my tornness in post #34?


53 posted on 04/23/2007 9:51:02 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Quix
Consistently, the leaning I have in the Spirit is towards love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and self-control which are the fruits of the Spirit in Galatians 5:22-23 (paraphrased.) I cannot imagine an instance where the Spirit would lean me towards anything else.

So although I can comprehend with my mind the tornness, the compulsion to meet fire with fire and such --- it doesn't register in my spirit.

IOW, the only possible reaction to being slapped, is to turn the other cheek. The only possible way to deliver a painful truth is with tenderness.

54 posted on 04/23/2007 10:23:57 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: JockoManning

Thanks for your kind vote and supportiveness.


55 posted on 04/23/2007 10:24:04 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Much respect your inputs and discernment.

Thanks tons.


56 posted on 04/23/2007 10:26:28 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Quix
And, interestingly, once I'd tried all the gentle, polite approaches, I discovered repeatedly that creatively fiesty, satirical, mocking etc. sorts of dramatizations would result in great break throughs where nothing else worked.

Ok let's talk about your dramatizations as you call them.

You need to remember who your audience is. There is no one-on-one talk or confrontations here. You are not face to face with the person you are posting to. No one can see you expressions, see your jesters or discern your tone, except through what you write. One cannot quickly reply to you or ask for clarification. Our responses are limited by our abilities to type and how much time we can afford to put into them. And there are those who never post or respond, but are affected by the way we conduct ourselves none the less.

This is not our living rooms or other such comfortable place where we feel unthreatened, but instead we are on the internet where all kinds of threatening things are going on. And we are huddled here together at FR in an effort to work together with like minded people to fight all of the threatening things around us. So you can see how it is even more disconcerting to someone who feels attacked here when they feel that we should be working together instead.

There is also the fact that we post anonymously here. Many feel emboldened by this anonymity and feel free to harass, annoy, provoke, lie, and try to intimidate others. There is no way of telling who is real or phony here except by the reputation that they build.

So you see that many of the tactics we use in our real lives while they may be productive even here at times, are not the right thing to do if they might be perceived as threatening. While we may be only posting to the few, many more people read what we have said than we will know. And when we say things that may be appropriate else where, here sometimes it can do more damage than good.

For every one person here that replies to us that we are being offensive, how many others just read our post, are hurt, shake their heads and never say anything? They just see us as another anonymous kook, bully or hater and judge our witness accordingly.

57 posted on 04/23/2007 10:32:20 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations. So should you.)
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To: Between the Lines

Well put.

Well reasoned.

Discerning exhortation with Spirit’s wisdom.

Thanks much.

Will record your vote as against.


58 posted on 04/23/2007 10:36:15 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Quix
I’m not sure sparks never occur, however.

It is kind of like the Wint-O-Green Life Savers, it has to be dark to see them.

59 posted on 04/23/2007 10:39:20 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations. So should you.)
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To: Quix
Will record your vote as against.

Record my vote as disagree. I will never be against you.

60 posted on 04/23/2007 10:41:55 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations. So should you.)
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