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I hope we can discuss the book and related issues peacably. I will post some more interesting points from the book later in the thread, Lord willing and the Creek don't rise up.
1 posted on 04/30/2007 9:00:27 PM PDT by Quix
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May you be strengthened in The Lord by this discussion.


2 posted on 04/30/2007 9:02:48 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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It’s amazing how creative folks get. Remember the USSR-era end-of-times theories?

The fact is, we’ve been living in the “end times” for about 2000 years, ever since that day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit empowered the Apostles.

Now let’s all take to heart Matthew 24:36, live as Jesus directed in Matthew 24:44, and obey His commandment in Matthew 28:19-20.


6 posted on 04/30/2007 9:20:02 PM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Terrorists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: Quix
I have no clue if Babylon is a literal city, or a spiritual condition. What I do feel fairly confident in saying is I believe this is the last generation of fallen humans to inhabit the planet, and we are soon going to have an infinitely greater understanding of all the events of the end times, as they unfold. I also think many Christians are going to be just as shocked as the world is at what transpires, especially in regards to what the true meaning of being “caught up” is, and the second coming of Christ to His temple, “the church which is his body”.

The other thing I know is I don’t argue with people about politics and religion, so I never respond to posts. I state my position, and “let the reader” decide. I believe I am the king of nonresponse on FR.

9 posted on 04/30/2007 9:34:28 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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I read through your post and think you are a nut. Glad to see the nuts in conservative disguise are protected. Conservatism is not dependent upon religion. Please don’t ruin it for the rest of the conservatives by being “jihadist” about what you believe and causing another Pelosi. My comments being pulled as they were smell of Iran. Thanks Mulla.


10 posted on 04/30/2007 9:34:46 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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socialism began thr; bk critique R We Living N END TIMES?

Somebody has been doing a little too much text messaging.

22 posted on 05/01/2007 12:33:20 AM PDT by iowamark (What if the Right said Fred?)
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Some scholars claim that 75% of the bible is prophecy...I see no reason to dispute that...

It's bizarre to claim that the bible's prophecy ends with the church and we are now living in the physical Kingdom of God/Heaven...

There is so much in the bible that we can not relate to because the true meaning of much of the bible has not been revealed yet...And will not be revealed except to the people that it was written to...The bible does not end with the church...

P143 You can be sure that any city mentioned seven times in two chapters as is Babylon in Revelation 17 and 18, will be a literal city. And since it is seen there as an enormously influential city, perhaps even the capital of government, commerce, and religion, it must yet be rebuilt. . . .

I believe it is, and has been rebuilt for some time...But not in Iraq...In looking again to Jer. 51, there is much that could be applied to the here and now...

23 posted on 05/01/2007 2:09:42 AM PDT by Iscool (I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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A key is found in Dr. Charles Pak’s report of his 1975 visit to Babylon to witness firsthand the rebuilding of that ancient city. There, for the first time in his life, Dr. Pak witnessed the worship of the devil at a reconstructed temple to the sun. When you recall that Hussein is known to micromanage everything in his country, including that entire rebuilding project, you can be sure that a temple to Satan would not be there without his approval.

Saddam Hussein became president of Iraq in July, 1979.

29 posted on 05/01/2007 7:33:59 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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A comment from the book re taking Scriptures literally.

Note in Mat 24:1-8 . . . Christ comments about "not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down."

p 31 ARE WE LIVING IN THE END TIMES:

History records that our Lord's words were fulfilled to the letter in A.D. 70. In that year the Roman army under the command of Titus destroyed the city of Jerusalem. Fires raged through the city and in the temple area itself. After the flames burned themselves out, the soldiers saw that large amounts of gold had melted and flowed into the crevices of the blocks of the temple. In order to recover the precious metal, the Romans had to take the buildings apart, stone by stone. And so Jesus' prophecy was fulfilled literally; not one stone was left upon another.

We can expect the vast majority of prophetic Scriptures yet to be fulfilled to be literally fulfilled to the letter. And, we can expect 100% of those obviously to be taken literally or literally AND symbolically to be fulfilled literally.

I have a difficult time understanding how any other perspective can be considered to be authentically Biblical in any serious sense.

42 posted on 05/01/2007 4:37:13 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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We are indeed fortunate to be blessed with your prognostic prowess, here on FR.

Ping me when that UFO shows up.

73 posted on 05/01/2007 8:43:02 PM PDT by marshmallow
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