Posted on 05/13/2007 3:42:05 PM PDT by xangel0228
On Saturday, May 12th, a contingent of Traditional Catholics in San Antonio, TX perform their annual “Pilgrimage along the Mission Trail” to celebrate and remember the sacrifice and service of the original Catholic Missionaries that pioneered the Catholic Church in Texas.
The near 7 mile walk starts at Mission Concepcion and end at Mission Espada. At each mission, the group would stop and say a certain devotion, whether it be the Stations of the Cross, the Rosary, or the Litany of St. Joseph.
Sounds harmless, especially since the Missions received thousands of visitors a year, from all faiths, right?
Wrong.
When this contingent of Catholics arrived at the first mission, Mission Concepcion, they were told by an obviously nervous Park Ranger that they were not to enter the mission, by order or Archbishop Jose H. Gomez, the Archbishop of San Antonio.
(Excerpt) Read more at youngtraditionalcatholics.com ...
‘This Catholic contingent is member of what would be considered a “renegade” chapel in San Antonio that belongs to the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX). The SSPX is considered to be in a “schismatic” status since they adhere to the Traditional Rite of the Catholic Mass that was celebrated before the changes of the Second Vatican Council.’
Where does Bishop Garcia fall in our list of good/bad Bishops? Not too impressed by this action certainly. I’m guessing the Traditional Catholics were SSPX.
Since the Church allows the Traditional Rite to be celebrated in accordance with Ecclesia Dei, the adherence to the "Traditional Rite" is obviously NOT the reason why the SSPX is in schism.
I have no good/bad data on Garcia. Since he is Novus Ordo...he is probably well intentioned..but misguided.
“There is also the highly debated act of the consecration of 4 bishops by the Archbishop Marcel Lefebrve in 1988 which some contest lead to automatic excommunication – the highest punishment the Church can bestow.”
Quoting myself — from my own article.
You’ll find there are quite a few of us “Novus Ordo Catholics” on Free Republic, so I wouldn’t start painting with a broad brush. I would say that their is a particular SSPX Bishop (Williamson comes to mind) who is perhaps well intentioned, but fundamentally misguided, so its not confined to Novus Ordo.
I don’t see how he can deny them admission to the Mission, particularly if it’s run by the Park Service. This is a very strange story. I don’t know anything about Gomez, but it would be interesting to learn more from anybody who knows.
Probably better to wait a little while on this story to see if its legit.
But it’s probably true.
“I would say that their is a particular SSPX Bishop (Williamson comes to mind) who is perhaps well intentioned, but fundamentally misguided, so its not confined to Novus Ordo.”
What is misguided about anything that the trad side of Catholicism does? (Other than the sedevacanist/conclavist/dogmatist movement)
We just want the church the way it was...because the way it is now...is too friggin politcally correct to call a spade a spade. You’ll reach out to everyone else...except yourselves...pleeease
“Probably better to wait a little while on this story to see if its legit.
But it’s probably true.”
You are darn skippy it’s true. I have evidence from the pulpit...and I should have evidence from teh Archdiosecse tommorow
“I don’t see how he can deny them admission to the Mission, particularly if it’s run by the Park Service. This is a very strange story. I don’t know anything about Gomez, but it would be interesting to learn more from anybody who knows”
It’s a strange relationship.. the parks/area around the churches are run by the park service (from what my knowledge states) but the actual churches are ran by the Archdioscese. I am endeavoring to get clarification on this, but from what my sources tell me...this is the case.
** Archbishop Jose H. Gomez, the Archbishop of San Antonio**
BTTT for further comment.
Don’t you mean **Archbishop Jose H. Gomez** from the article?
I see. I know there are some missions in California that function the same way, and there are also some that are more or less separate but where Catholics are allowed to have services on certain days of the year. The same applies to the Orthodox at Fort Ross.
Still, it’s pretty weird; I don’t see how he could prevent them from saying the Rosary there, if that’s all they wanted to do.
Is this a self-parody? It sure sounds like it!
That is correct. Despite their great devotion to maintaining the pre-Vatican Latin liturgy, they have separated themselves from the Magisterium. They are not the first nor will they be the last to sever ties with the successor of St. Peter. As Catholics, we pray that one day they will be returned to the fold. Until then, Bishop Garcia is to be respected for his actions.
The Traditional Catholic movement is no friend of Christ, from the reports made in the press over the past few months. This is not to confuse TC with RCC or Orthodox believers. Mexican TCs around Oaxaca have been burning down Protestant church buildings, taxing those who leave the TC and imprisoning their families.
There are many reports they are mixing animalism and pagan rites with Catholic tradition, resulting in a blasphemous mix.
Are you familiar with Bishop Williamson? He is most definitely misguided, though perhaps well-intentioned. He’s even threatened schism within SSPX if Bishop Fellay pursues reunion with Rome.
And you answered your question with what could possibly be misguided about Traditional Roman Catholicism. The movement in and of itself is not misguided, but when it delves into Sedvecantism and Anti-Semitism (as it sometimes in certain groups does), it becomes misguided.
You’re confusing traditional Catholics in America with religious issues in Mexico. Try not to put much trust in “reports made in the press.”
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