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To: Dr. Eckleburg

It seems many people are confusing the terms “doctrine” and “dogma.” Our Lady’s maternal mediation (Mother of All Peoples with its three aspects) is an official doctrine of the Church. It is not yet a dogma. It is valid to debate whether it should or should not be a dogma, but one cannot debate whether it is already a doctrine of the Catholic Church.

Also, to the other posters,
the title “Co-Redemptrix” does not mean that Mary is a goddess or is above Christ or is even equal to Christ. The “co” comes from Latin which means “with and under.” There is no hint at equality. The issue of “Co” meaning “equal to” is a faulty english understanding of the prefix. All of the virtues, grace, and privileges of Mary come from Christ. The title “Co-redemptrix” means literally “the woman with the Redeemer.”
This is not a new concept. It is present (called recirculation) in the Fathers of the Churc who said that as sin entered the world through a man, a woman, and a tree, so the act of redemption is accomplished by a Man(Christ), a Woman(Mary), and a Tree(the Cross).

God did not need Mary to enact our redemption, but he chose her from all eternity to be Mediatrix and Co-redemptrix with Christ, the Mediator and Redeemer.

God Bless.


61 posted on 06/13/2007 8:22:30 PM PDT by Danny Garland Jr. (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: Danny Garland Jr.

Where was this doctrine taught?


65 posted on 06/13/2007 8:37:13 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Danny Garland Jr.; Pyro7480; fr maximilian mary
Our Lady’s maternal mediation (Mother of All Peoples with its three aspects) is an official doctrine of the Church.

Say what?

Our Lady's maternal mediation I know about but I've seldom heard the term "Mother of All Peoples". Until I did a Google search. I got back one hit. It leads to a website entitled Mother of All Peoples. The list of contributors uncludes a "Fr. Maximillian Mary Dean", whom I presume is the very same priest who is here present.

Seriously, guys.

The site says that you're pressing for the proclamation of a 5th Marian dogma, i.e. that named above. That's nice. However, let's be clear. You guys are pushing the envelope here. You're using the terms "Mother of All Peoples" synonomously with Our Lady's maternal mediation. That's a little naughty. I believe this term has its origin in the "Virgin of All Nations" apparitions.

We're all on board with the mediatory powers of the Blessed Mother but the Mother of All Peoples/5th dogma angle is your personal crusade, right?

66 posted on 06/13/2007 9:42:17 PM PDT by marshmallow
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