Posted on 07/20/2007 8:49:30 AM PDT by Between the Lines
Any ideas? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
What's wrong with that picture?
Their beliefs statement doesn’t jive with the PDL model. I suspect an “old guard vs. new guard” battle is taking place there.
Nice looking man. Has an aire of the Lord about him. Cannot tell anything else from the website. Is there a ‘Purpose Driven Church’, Rick Warren issue?
I think he's being pretty straight forward:
CALLING ALL MEN! JOIN US ON SATUDAY
I have seen pastors do this, after attending a “church growth seminar” or some other such program. One “consultant” locked pastors in their hotel rooms until they “received their vision”. Then they all went back to their churches and ran members away in order to take full control. Another one of the side benefits of purpose driven nonsense.
If you could just get the parishioners out of the parish, everything would be so great.
Don't make me call the po-leece now......can I get an A-MEN??!!
The web site states:
“What can I expect on my first visit?
From the moment you enter our doors you’ll be made to feel at home. Our ushers will welcome you, provide you with our weekly worship guide and direct you to your seat. Then position yourself to enter into the presence of the Almighty. If you have children, you’ll want to take advantage of our safe and secure children’s church designed just for them.”
Worldlings will feel at home and the kids will be separated from the parents. Churches that do either of these miss the Biblical mandate for the church - it’s home to saints, not worldlings and parents are to teach the kids the things of God. The church should make it difficult for parents to shrug off their kids, not facilitate it.
You series about that? He LOOKS like he has an “aire of the Lord” about him? You can tell by looking at someone? What does that look like? And how is that important? Think Jesus would have called the police to keep people away from attending service?
Control does seem to be the issue doesn’t it?
“...they say it states they can in the church bylaws, their vote has been interrupted and not allowed to continue.”
Just WHO do these people think they are? Harry Reid? LOL!
Worse than that -- now they want to get rid of any Board of Directors, Deacons or Trustees. The pastor wants 100% control and no questions asked by members. You can just imagine where it leads. Property gets moved into the pastor's name if they can get away with it, misuse of funds, running personal businesses through the church books...I have seen all of this recently.
Before reading this news account, the only pastors that I thought were unchristian enough to be capable of threatening church members with arrest and criminal prosecution for trespassing were Seventh-day Adventists.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1705993/posts
They are a Purpose Driven church. They are listed as such on the PD Website.
My understanding from my RW source is that this is totally false. I forget the nature of the mistake. I’ll try and post the email later.
I’ll relay your question.
I haven’t followed this remotely closely—not really much at all.
I’m not very fond of the RW witch hunts.
I received an email from my source noting that it was false and that there was some mix-up—that the closest church that was truly part of the RW system was several States away or some such. When I open my email software again, I’ll post that email here.
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