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To: Forest Keeper; P-Marlowe; xzins; Kolokotronis
As you know, but for the benefit of lurkers, they cannot say that honestly, for in the Apostolic theology Christ did NOT die for anyone's sins. For them, Christ's suffering and death, and resurrection, was only good to give man the possibility to decide for himself if he wanted to be saved. So in their theology, Christ finished nothing, He just handed the ball off to man and waited to see who gained enough yards to be saved

If that is your opinion, FK, the you have been deceived. You have not read anything regarding Orthodox doctrine as you claimed you did, because you could not say something so completely off base if you did. What you wrote is a cheap caricature of what Orthodoxy teaches.

I would ask you to substantiate your characterization with Orthodox sources (and please leave out any hetretics! We don't go by them).

6,906 posted on 09/21/2007 9:23:29 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; P-Marlowe; xzins; Kolokotronis
and please leave out any hetretics!

theatrics?

chiropractics?

Metritics?

Netretics?

So I googled it. And this is what I found:

wow..tutankhamun is inside the pedestal? i thought he was a minor pharaoh who wouldnt have much significance...its interesting how he was regarded so importanly in his time...afterall, ive heard later on..other pharaohs tried to "take away his name" from temple walls along with akhenaton, nefertiti, and so on because tutankhamun was related to them and egypt didnt want to be affiliated which such..hmm.."hetretics"

:>)

6,908 posted on 09/21/2007 9:32:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: kosta50; P-Marlowe; xzins; Kolokotronis
If that is your opinion, FK, the you have been deceived. You have not read anything regarding Orthodox doctrine as you claimed you did, because you could not say something so completely off base if you did.

You said THAT I was wrong, but you did not say why. I do not base my opinion on hundreds of hours of pouring through Apostolic documents. I base it on hundreds of hours of reading posts from you guys! :) I thought I was being fair.

I said that in your theology Jesus finished nothing since man has the ultimate power to lose his salvation and win it back again. I know that the Orthodox really don't speak of it in those terms, but the Latins do. So, I said that for you Christ laid the groundwork, but it's up to you to complete the deal. What's incorrect about that?

I have had it explained to me that for you Christ's work on the cross is applied at baptism (usually infant), and of course no one has committed any sins by then. So, it must normally refer to whatever one's version of original sin is. But ALL of you say that future sins are NOT covered by Christ's work. For you that is a separate issue. So, other than original sin, what sins of yours did Christ die to remit? If I sinned by offending you with my post, then did Christ die to forgive that sin? I think you would have to say "no". For that I would have to apologize to you (and I do if I did :) and I would have to confess to a priest and receive absolution for that sin. What has this to do with Jesus on the cross?

I have seen the question asked a hundred times: "do you believe that Jesus died on the cross to pay for all of our sins, past, present, and future?" The answer from your side is always "No".

7,034 posted on 09/23/2007 3:35:16 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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