Posted on 10/26/2007 9:00:59 PM PDT by topcat54
It appears that is contrary to what the Lord says
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The blinders of a screwy system hide truth yet again.
The Lord indicates that the coming END TIME TRAUMAS for Israelis and the whole world will be worse than ever has been or ever will be ...
YET ANOTHER PROOF THAT AD70 IS A TOTALLY BANKRUPT EXPLANATION having HOTHING to do with Biblical truth.
Thank you for this engaging sidebar, dear brother in Christ!
You are a blessing to me, sister. Please do not consider any of my comments to you to be more than the suggestions that they are.
So far as infants are concerned, it is clear that ALL SALVATION finds its source in the Lord. It is clear that ALL names in the Lamb’s Book of Life are clearly there and that the Lord sees them.
However, if it appears in Scripture that the Lord gives insight into WHY He has chosen to place deceased infants’ names in that book, then all we can do is weigh whether we are correctly interpreting that as insight.
In terms of “epochs,” “ages,” and “administrations,” there is also insight granted.
We must be people of the book. Any literalists should rejoice in knowing that the root word is “literate.”
As were Luther and Calvin.
Would you not agree that the "heresies" of Calvin and Luther actually led to a better understanding of the truth of scripture?
How do you propose eradicating dispensationalism from the church without eradicating dispensationalists?
God works all things to good for those who Love him. . .
. . . even satan to God’s purposes . . .
that’s not a feather in satan’s cap.
How do you propose eradicating dispensationalism from the church without eradicating dispensationalists?
Changing their minds?
Strictly speaking I guess that would be eliminating dispensationalists, since you'd have one less DP-ist, one more whatever.
AS I’ve seen sooooooooo many
baltant historical and Biblical facts so fiercely denied and ignored . . .
I’ve begun to wonder if dispensationalism etc. is the issue at all.
I increasingly think the issue is REACTIVE ATTACHMENT DISORDER in the lives of too many Replacementarians.
When being seen as right—no matter how wrong one’s position is along side the historical and Biblical facts—when being seen as right is far more important than Biblical Truth . . . . something funny is going on.
However, if it appears in Scripture that the Lord gives insight into WHY He has chosen to place deceased infants’ names in that book, then all we can do is weigh whether we are correctly interpreting that as insight.
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. – John 6:63
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Indeed. My contribution to such discussions is generally this: that we should not impose our mortal reasoning onto the words of God. Which is to say, if something does not make sense to us, the problem is ours not His.
We must be people of the book. Any literalists should rejoice in knowing that the root word is “literate.”
Oh so very true! The words of God are food to us.
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. – Matthew 4:4
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. – John 6:63
Praise God!!!
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AMEN T BOTH OF YOU.
You know, this attempt at artifically carving up history into 7 dispensations is irrelevant....
The sacramental tokens of grace began IN Eden. The age of grace began IN Eden. The covenant of grace (between the Father and the Son), instituted BEFORE time began, began to manifest itself IN Eden. The prophecy of redemption in grace for all mankind was first spoken to man IN Eden. The church began IN Eden.
Dispensationalism is a fairy tale. God has always dealt with mankind’s redemption by grace and NEVER by the Law.
1. You know next to nothing about dispensationalism.
2. You think you know everything about dispensationalism.
3. You don’t want to know anything about dispensationalism.
I do think that Bib Chr is onto something, but, of course, I have no idea how much you know about dispensationalism.
However, I do think that those who seem most annoyed by dispensationalists have a tendency in a "preterist" direction.
What is it about dispensationalism, in your opinion, that blocks someone's accepting preterism?
Uh Huh...
And little Jack Horner sat in a corner eating a cherry pie...
Stuck in his thumb and pulled out a plumb and said,
What's a plumb doing in a cherry pie...
But your's was funnier than mine...
Prayer, education, and the power of the Holy Spirit.
So is the current pope. So what?
"I have more understanding than all my teachers, For Your testimonies are my meditation." (Psalm 119:99)
It's pretty clear that you didn't even bother to see what that post concerned.
What are the exact scriptures, and I really would like to know
He may be a legend in his own mind, but there are plenty of non-dispensationalists who understand completely** what the system is all about, especially as it is taught in the pop media (as most folks get their knowledge about these things).
However, I do think that those who seem most annoyed by dispensationalists have a tendency in a "preterist" direction.
So what?
I have found it very interesting over the course of the last ten or so years how dispensationalists, previously ignorant of anyone else’s view but their own, have taken off after postmils and preterists with a vengeance.
I was listening to Woodrow Kroll on his Back to the Bible broadcast the other day answer a question about preterism. He was very nice in his response, and made it clear that he disagreed, but I found it quite telling that even Mr. Kroll felt compelled to say something about what appears to be the principle opposing view of dispensationalism. What has him so concerned?
I still contend that folks are growing weary of the mumbo-jumbo and "Jesus is going to return next week" rant, especially those folks who can read their Bible for themselves, and they are leaving dispensationalism for a more biblical eschatology. Some are even becoming more Reformed, and seeing the disconnect between the Bible/Reformed theology and dispensationalism. That leaves them with some flavor of amil/postmil.
** As completely as one can given that dispensationalism changes from week to week, book to book, revision to revision, seminary to seminary, Bible school to Bible school, "no creed but Christ" independent fundamentalist to independent fundamentalist.
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