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Posted on 12/31/2007 8:21:48 PM PST by Salvation
There was no personal attack in that post.
All references to people in general is “they”. There was no “you” in that post.
Certainly no one likes seeing their ox gored . . . especially if they are standing cheek to cheek to the ox.
LOL.
I have found through numerous painful situations of my ox being gored . . . that it was the kindest most loving thing anyone could have done for me—EVEN WHEN, God allowed it to be done by very hateful, spiteful, mean-spirited, angry, even evil enemies.
Some oxen ARE sooooooooo deadly, better to get the thing dead by whatever means.
And, there had usually been thousands of gentle exhortations and other such polite efforts to get me to see; to get me to hear; to get me to wake-up etc. . . . all to no avail. Such were too easily rationalized away; ignored; forgotten.
I Praise God for the 2 X 4’s upside the head when needed, no matter how painful.
Yeah, we don’t tend to go running to the mods. Our skin seems to be gentically thicker, for some odd reason.
Maybe it’s all that cozying up to the soft bossom of Mary that leaves so many of the RC edifice reps so thin skinned. I don’t know. An itneresting psychological/sociological question.
Certainly the idolatry stuff is deadly serious—eternally deadly serious. And, if we Protties, didn’t care, it would be soooooooooooooo much easier to just walk on by on the other side of the road. Leave em all clustered around their shrines facing the fate of such ‘adoration’s . . . over the top; under the bottom . . . adorations.
I wonder what the statistics are about how many Protties run to the mods vs how many RC reps have tended to do such how often.
You are right, no one is calling me a liar. Someone is saying that I can't be believed, that's all.
Someone, when faced with an unpalatable contradiction, just suggests that I can't really claim I am telling the truth unless I prove something that I saw more than four decades ago when I was in a procession in a church which may no longer exist and is some 400 miles from where I am right now. That's all.
They're not really saying I'm lying, just that I can't lay claim to telling the truth.
Well, I've learned about all I need to learn about Protestantism.
This is abusive and personal
Didn't do logic on the Psychology track, huh?
Your methodology stinks for one simple reason, which has already been explained. OU guys won't attack us if we praise Jesus. So there won't be a lot of traffic on that topic.
But you will display all the engines of hell you have used in the past few thousand posts if Mary comes up. So you can skew the results.
The above is the line which led me to say you couldn't answer a simple question without giving offense.
You reply:Oh, I VERY much answered trying very hard to avoid unnecessary offense quite vigorously.
So expressing dubeity about RC's being able to fair-mindedly examine the evidence was, what a necessary gicing of offense? How so?
The challenge might have been accepted, if you hadn't added the, let's say, not clearly necessary insult.
Personally, I have no doubt about your ability to examine the evidence fair-mindedly. You propose a skewed experiment which overlooks a critical body of data which is likely to work against your hypothesis, (which has been unclearly but nevertheless offensively articulated) and you challenge those whom you are criticizing to take part while expressing doubt that they have the integrity to do so.
I don't have any doubt at all about your fairness.
Why?
AS to the "Town square format", if some of the Prots tried in a town square that they do here there would be violence.
I am intrigues that you link challenges and ridicule. The two are not the same thing.
And, it is simply not true that Caucus threads are reliably protected, as you know.
HELLO?
DO WORDS MEAN ANYTHING
REMOTELY consistent . . . .
to RC reps?
1. The post I was responding to insisted that I/we/my side asserted that
“we need to study UFO’s and Bible Codes...”
2. I don’t ever recall saying that on FR EVER—on ANY thread.
3. Yet RC reps wail, whine, rend their clothes and wallow in sack cloth and ashes if ANY protty comes remotely close to saying something about RC’s and their statements that they are suddenly UNWILLING TO OWN. Can anyone spell DOUBLE STANDARD? Sheesh.
4. POST 2705? HELLO???? THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO a . . . provocative . . . post by an RC rep TO ME about Bible Codes . . . mentioning the MOTHER OF GOD. I felt honor bound to post the whole of the pages from Bible Codes.com SO THAT THE CONTEXT WOULD BE PROVIDED along with the honest discussion of the possible meanings . . . rather than just a pointed slam of a tweaky out of context blip from a fraction of the codes involved.
5. And THAT post was in response to post 2504 which mentioned my mentioning Bible Codes and citing Bible Codes.com . . . and post 2504 was in response to . . . following at 6.
6. i’D HAVE THOUGHT that you’d have provided a link.
BTW,
PLEASE
avoid calling ANY Bible Codes
“Quix’s Bible Codes”
unless I post them and own them as such.
I realize derision may well be a likely goal of the RC edifice with regard to such a topic . . . and that all such requests may well be ignored. Nevertheless . .
Which was in response to post
7. To: Mad Dawg; Quix
(??)But Quix’ Bible Codes refer to the Mother of God:
“1. Mother of God Ah-mahl (5)
He will count those who rose in Him, and those to whom the Mother of God brings pleasure in Him.
2. Mother of God Ah-mahl (8)
With the exalted right hand of the Mother of God, rest and sleep.
3. Mother of God Ah-mahl (7)
Providing from above, move, God, the king’s day. Come, Mother of God, and let there be silence by command.
4. Mother of God Ah-mahl (6)
You will long for the Mother of God as a sea of knowledge, with his sea of hiding being an intoxicating passion, redeeming the stone on my mouth.
[This poetic ELS brings to mind the passage in Isaiah 6:1-7. Isaiah has seen The Lord and cries out “Woe is me!” Then one of the seraphs touches his mouth with a live coal to cleanse his unclean lips and atone for his sin.]
5. Mother of God Ah-mahl (2)
I signaled with God’s power, so that you wonder about both the sea and the island, for a congregation was wiped out. Become gradually aware of the Mother of God.”
Color me perplexed.
2,488 posted on 01/20/2008 1:27:55 PM MST by reagandemocrat
Which was in response to
8. To: Quix; Cvengr
Put DOWN the Bible Code and back AWAY from the UFO.
Cvengr seems to have — I say “seems” — to have walked into a self-contradiction or to be complaining that we are using the word perfect as the Bible uses it or to be disagreeing with one of Dr E’s two contradictory stances on the word perfect.
2,486 posted on 01/20/2008 12:52:12 PM MST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
8. Which could most logically have been construed as a derisive slam at my interest in Bible Codes and UFO’s and thereby a kind of under the wire of the regs about personal attacks but still contextually casting aspersions on anyone silly enough to have an interest in Bible Codes and UFO’s.
. . .
9. I could trace the replies further back, perhaps.
YET AGAIN, WHERE DID I SAY THAT ANYONE
NEEDED
TO STUDY THE BIBLE CODES.
10. I DIDN’T. yet again, RC reps have wholesale misrepresented what I’ve said. And yet the RC reps tend to wail and run whining to the RM and/or others whenever they feel even their sensibilities, much more so their words have been misrepresented.
Sheesh.
Can anyone spell WHOLESALE DOUBLE STANDARD?
I thought Parochial schools had grades higher than kindergarten.
Dr E . . . please let me know when 7/11 has a sale on . . . a list of intellectual qualities . . . I’d love to distribute a bunch very freely.
Actually, IIRC,
I’ve responded very calmly and conservatively, even politely and generously whenever I’ve been addressed in such a manner . . . even by . . . any example of or ALL . . . the RC reps hereon.
INDEED.
No Protestant on these threads has done that.
Every Protestant I have seen on these threads has given ample evidence they have read the Scriptures extensively and found many of the beliefs and practices of the church in Rome to contradict God’s own word.
No small error.
= = =
INDEED.
I never went to any anti-RC sites until one of the RC reps sort of provoked me to doing so with a link or some such.
Yet I can distinguish between comments about my religion from comments about me, i.e. “deranged prom queen with a hacksaw going after her fellow students.”
= = =
But I don’t even mind their making it personal all
THAT
much.
Occasionally I want to blow a whistle and call attention to a particularly egregious example of outrageous double standardism . . . but that’s just a personal hobby of mine of no eternal consquence, most likely.
But we protties seem to have matured ENOUGH to realize that
our products . . . are not our essence.
Our personhood does not hang insecurely on every word or phrase passing through our golden fingertips.
LOL.
Therefore, we don’t NEED to go running to the mod or wailing to high heaven and low hell about how mistreated we’ve been even when the mistreatments have been outrageously over the top.
We can still consider the quality of the accusation and/or the quality of the source and walk on by—certainly sleep soundly at night, regardless.
I don’t recall saying it went over that specific line.
LOL.
Neither do I recall being a much of an idiot as some seem to think I am.
No one’s skewing any results.
The opportunity exists in every post to start with Mary and end up with Jesus.
The opportunity exists with every thread to immediately turn the focus on Jesus.
Doesn’t happen. Certainly doesn’t happen very often.
There are reasons for that.
And the main reasons have nothing to do with Protties.
I think my skepticism about the fairmindedness of RC reps toward counting such lines is a very, very, very reasonable concern given the vast evidence of such in general
about VERY BASIC SCRIPTURES protties have often cited hereon.
Failure to express that caution or concern would have been an unacceptable invitation to silliness with regard to how to procede with the proposed task of line counting and assessing.
Right. The insults, the advisedly offensive language which has led people to tell you they do not read our posts any longer, you're doing it all to save us, as a noble sacrifice. What a guy. OU don't know enoguht to articulate in wordw we would recognize what we're ding, but you'll leave no person unoffended in your heroic and sacrificial effort to stop us form doing it whatever it is.
Sorry. No sale.
It is an admission and an explanation for a purposeful, intentional use of abuse against Catholics in an effort to save us from something or other.
And then it provides an example of what it promises.
There is no need for any circumlocutory beating around the bush. Here Quix is openly saying that he WANTS to cause pain -- for our own good of course. It no doubt hurts him more than it hurts us. It's all a sacrifice on his part, so much easier to leave us to our faith, uh, fate.
But evidently God has left it in the hands of some of the FR PROT-REPS to insult and offend us out of our "dogmatic slumbers." (Identify the phrase in quotes and get a free insult!)
Personally I'm grateful to Quix for coming right out and saying what we all suspected about him and so many of his familiars. This is not a conversation or dialogue in which we learn about what we believe by learning about those who have different opinions believe. Some say it is a debate, some say it is preaching. And that's why it doesn't follow the kind of conversational path where one person find s new way of looking at the problem and the others tr to see how much they learn from it.
No because it's preaching and debating, they will never ever admit when they are mistaken, no matter how undeniable the evidence.And so we see that some of our persecutors will think that they are doing God and even us a favor by their persecution.
The good news is that now that they have "come out" and admitted this is not about conversation, or for some of them even debate, we don't have to try to take what they say seriously. They don't want it examined, they want it swallowed. They want submission and they will stop at little, if anything, to get it. They themselves have said so.
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