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Habemus Papam: Jesuits Go Ad Orientem
WITL ^ | January 19, 2008 | Rocco Palmo

Posted on 01/19/2008 2:59:46 PM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 01/19/2008 2:59:50 PM PST by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Your thoughts.


2 posted on 01/19/2008 3:01:36 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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And from Diogenes at Catholic News Service, we have the following report:


Prior to his election as superior general of the Jesuits, Father Adolfo Nicolas admitted to an uneasy feeling about the Society of Jesus:

I have a feeling, still imprecise and difficult to define, that there is something important in our religious life that needs attention and is not getting it.

That's interesting. Some other people seem to be trying to communicate their own misgivings.

3 posted on 01/19/2008 3:16:48 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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4 posted on 01/19/2008 4:15:21 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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"The Pope also reminded the delegates of the special loyalty that Jesuits owe to the Holy See, confirmed "in a vow of immediate obedience to the successor of Peter."

Put that in your Conference and smoke it.

5 posted on 01/19/2008 4:20:10 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially.)
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6 posted on 01/19/2008 4:22:29 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, Don't Democrats just kill ya?)
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Let’s hope that Fr Adolfo Nicolás doesn’t resemble Fr. Arrupe too closely, even though he is said to represent his legacy. Frankly, Fr. Arrupe was a disaster, who permitted, or possibly encouraged, the Jesuits to go further and further into dissent and (apparently) homosexuality.

The Order has been decaying for decades, growing smaller and smaller and further and further from its former loyalty to the Church.

This may be the last chance to turn it around, if it isn’t already too late. Pray that they chose the right man for the job.


7 posted on 01/19/2008 6:11:46 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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‘The question is how to give the Ignatian experience to a Buddhist’, he says. ‘Not maybe formulated in Christian terms, which is what Ignatius asked, but to go to the core of the experience.

Sorry, but Ignatius and the "Ignatian experience" were all about Christ and being a Christian.

If the good Fr. Nicolas wants to be a Zen master, he should go off and do it on his own dime and leave the Jesuits to get back to following Christ.

8 posted on 01/19/2008 7:01:42 PM PST by livius
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Oh, dear. Say it isn’t so.


9 posted on 01/19/2008 8:23:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Sigh, they need to dump the New Age angst and get back to preaching the Gospel in and out of season. Maybe they should be required to study the lives of the Jesuit missionaries and martyrs who have been raised to the altars.


10 posted on 01/19/2008 8:45:29 PM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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Amen.


11 posted on 01/19/2008 8:53:03 PM PST by AliVeritas (I'm the Christian Satan warned you about... trust me.)
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I’m thinking that this priest is on the right track for the Jesuits.

Even some of the followers of Jesus left when the teaching was too hard for them. We shall see if some Jesuits, too, leave, because the teaching will be too hard for them.


12 posted on 01/19/2008 8:54:18 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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>> In a dramatic echo of the Arrupe legacy, <<

Dear God, help us.


13 posted on 01/19/2008 8:56:15 PM PST by dangus
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Or is this another step in the wrong direction?


14 posted on 01/19/2008 8:57:07 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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If this guy is much like the author paints him to be, Habemus Pablum.


15 posted on 01/19/2008 8:57:36 PM PST by dangus
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His six hopes sound like anything you would hear at a Moose Lodge convention or the local League of Women Voters planning meeting.


16 posted on 01/19/2008 8:59:47 PM PST by dangus
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Are we sure this guy is a Jesuit? He’s wearing a Roman collar. Highly unusual for that crowd.


17 posted on 01/19/2008 9:24:25 PM PST by Pseudo Bombay (often imitated never equalled)
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“Tokyo’s Sofia University”

Where they offer confession two hours a day almost 365 days a year, in contrast to the miserly hour a week in the Boise Diocese.

I met Fr. Mendizibal there, a wonderful priest of advanced age. Wish he was here.

Don’t recall running into this Fr. Nicolas.


18 posted on 01/20/2008 1:06:31 AM PST by dsc
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“For them, it’s not about exchange but about teaching and imposing orthodoxy.”

He sees this as a *bad* thing?

I think we could use about a million times more.


19 posted on 01/20/2008 1:10:29 AM PST by dsc
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When you read the heroic lives of the Jesuit missionaries, you simply cannot fathom how the order has fallen to what it is today.


20 posted on 01/20/2008 2:52:42 AM PST by livius
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