Have We Not Reason to Rejoice?

LDS.org ^ | 10/07 | Dieter F. Uchtdorf

[MHGinTN]

Add to that, most of the supposed ‘translating’ didn’t even have the imagined ‘plates’ from which to ‘translate’ but the figures would supposedly appear in the hat with the peepstone in it. Smith was a pretty effective conman, if you think about it ... he’s still conning people who want to believe in his cons.

[dmw]

“I don’t care about a democratic vote on an issue of fact. What I care about is the truth.”

If all you care about is truth, then why do you not use the Bible, and the Bible ALONE, to define what a Christian is?

[Gator113]

“I find the attacks against Mormons disgusting.”

“-—> THIS RIGHT HERE <-—

...is what I mean by ATTACK.”

I would have written to you sooner, but I have been wrestling with how to respond without attacking you for attacking my post in claiming it was an attack. I considered not responding at all, but was concerned an absence of a response, could be taken as a tacit attack, causing you to then attack me by claiming that my tacit attack was an attack to your attack of me, for what you claim was an attack. ;>)

Of course, as you believe my last post was an attack, no doubt you will consider this response as an attack, of your attack to attacking me for what you claim was an attack.

The truth is, it was not my intent to attack anyone. Rather, I was simply responding to a post, directed to me, that looked like an organized attack by the Catholic’s against the Mormon’s. Further, I was trying to state my personal opinion as that what this entire feud looks like to a guy looking at it from the outside.

At the risk of being accused of yet another attack, I will say this. I believe this entire cyber war over religion is silly and self defeating. Maybe I am just different, but I doubt that many souls are saved by rubbing the bible into peoples noses, while shouting insults. Perhaps that makes some people warm up to religion, but it sure doesn’t effect me that way.

It seems to me that a better use of energy, might be to spend time trying to lead folks to faiths, not drive them away with these over the top fights about doctrines. Admittedly, I could be wrong. Perhaps demeaning others about their faith and dissecting each piece of each faith, has proven to be successful.

On a final note, we all know that our country was founded on religious freedom, among other things, and it is my belief that we need more of it to survive as a free country. But you mark my words, should the democrats prevail in November, it will be religion that takes much of the blame and it will be religion that will become the real loser in all of this. And, THAT disturbs me, a great deal.

Aren’t our right’s beautiful, they allow ALL of us to have fun. ;>)

Have a nice day....

[Elsie]

 

I urge each reader of this posting to examine the evidence and make up his/her own mind.

 

Now you KNOW that THIS is the 'correct' way to do it!

 

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THE BOOK OF MORONI

CHAPTER 10

 

A testimony of the Book of Mormon comes by the power of the Holy Ghost—The gifts of the Spirit are dispensed to the faithful—Spiritual gifts always accompany faith—Moroni’s words speak from the dust—Come unto Christ, be perfected in him, and sanctify your souls. About A.D. 421

 

1 Now I, Moroni, write somewhat as seemeth me good; and I write unto my brethren, the Lamanites; and I would that they should know that *more than four hundred and twenty years have passed away since the sign was given of the coming of Christ.

2 And I seal up these records, after I have spoken a few words by way of exhortation unto you.

3 Behold, I would exhort you that when ye shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God that ye should read them, that ye would remember how merciful the Lord hath been unto the children of men, from the creation of Adam even down until the time that ye shall receive these things, and ponder it in your hearts.

 4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.

5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.

 

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THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 9

 

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet to Oliver Cowdery, at Harmony, Pennsylvania, April 1829. HC 1: 37–38. Oliver is admonished to be patient, and is urged to be content to write, for the time being, at the dictation of the translator, rather than to attempt to translate. 1–6, Other ancient records are yet to be translated; 7–14, The Book of Mormon is translated by study and by spiritual confirmation.

 

1 Behold, I say unto you, my son, that because you did not translate according to that which you desired of me, and did commence again to write for my servant, Joseph Smith, Jun., even so I would that ye should continue until you have finished this record, which I have entrusted unto him.

2 And then, behold, other records have I, that I will give unto you power that you may assist to translate.

3 Be patient, my son, for it is wisdom in me, and it is not expedient that you should translate at this present time.

4 Behold, the work which you are called to do is to write for my servant Joseph.

5 And, behold, it is because that you did not continue as you commenced, when you began to translate, that I have taken away this privilege from you.

6 Do not murmur, my son, for it is wisdom in me that I have dealt with you after this manner.

7 Behold, you have not understood; you have supposed that I would give it unto you, when you took no thought save it was to ask me.

8 But, behold, I say unto you, that you must study it out in your mind; then you must cask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right.

9 But if it be not right you shall have no such feelings, but you shall have a stupor of thought that shall cause you to forget the thing which is wrong; therefore, you cannot write that which is sacred save it be given you from me.

10 Now, if you had known this you could have translated; nevertheless, it is not expedient that you should translate now.

11 Behold, it was expedient when you commenced; but you feared, and the time is past, and it is not expedient now;

12 For, do you not behold that I have given unto my servant Joseph sufficient strength, whereby it is made up? And neither of you have I condemned.

13 Do this thing which I have commanded you, and you shall prosper. Be faithful, and yield to no temptation.

14 Stand fast in the work wherewith I have called you, and a hair of your head shall not be lost, and you shall be lifted up at the last day. Amen.

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--MormonDude(speechless: for once)

[Elsie]

I would have written to you sooner, but I have been wrestling with how to respond without attacking you for attacking my post in claiming it was an attack. I considered not responding at all, but was concerned an absence of a response, could be taken as a tacit attack, causing you to then attack me by claiming that my tacit attack was an attack to your attack of me, for what you claim was an attack. ;>)

I surrender!

[Gator113]

Good! And I do mean it when I say to have a nice day. ;>)

[MHGinTN]

The Mormonism apologists have missed that third leg of the wilderness temptation of Jesus ... they don’t see anything worng with ‘putting the Lord God to test’, for answers to the ambiguous BM and other fabrications from Joe Smith.

[greyfoxx39]

Magic decoder ring placemark and keep on posting the truth....they don’t see anything wrong with ‘putting the Lord God to test’ AND setting the conditions OF the test to meet their requirements.

[Utah Binger]

I would have written to you sooner, but I have been wrestling with how to respond without attacking you for attacking my post in claiming it was an attack. I considered not responding at all, but was concerned an absence of a response, could be taken as a tacit attack, causing you to then attack me by claiming that my tacit attack was an attack to your attack of me, for what you claim was an attack. ;>)
GODbe with you till we meet again.

[outofstyle]

Then I would have to surmise that religion is not really that important to you.

Then your reasoning is flawed. My religion is important to me. Neither your religion, nor Romney's, is important to me. Your actions are important to me.

[Godzilla]

placemark

[Elsie]

Neither your religion, nor Romney's, is important to me. Your actions are important to me.

Speaking of that; how about them ACTIONS yesterday!

Whoda thunk!

I guess we REALLY be triangulatin' agin them BAPTISTS now!

[Elsie]

 [Discussing how to counter Homer Stokes' campaign for governor]

 

 

Junior O'Daniel: We could hire our own midget, even shorter than his.
Pappy O'Daniel: Wouldn't we look like a bunch of Johnny-come-latelies, bragging on our own midget, doesn't matter how stumpy.

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Pappy O'Daniel: Moral fibre? I invented moral fibre! Pappy O'Daniel was displaying rectitude and high-mindedness when that egghead you work for was still messing his drawers!

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Pappy O'Daniel: I'll press your flesh, you dimwitted sumbitch! You don't tell your pappy how to court the electorate. We ain't one-at-a-timin' here. We're MASS communicating!

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(Thank you! to the Coen brothers!)

[Gamecock]

Gamecock angrily lashed out

I did?

Where?

[outofstyle]

Speaking of that; how about them ACTIONS yesterday!

I admit, you got me on that. :~/

There appears not to be even a little good news for conservatives. We are like a pack of dogs without a leader. Until one comes forth, I suppose we will just continue to snap at each other.

[colorcountry]

Gamecock angrily lashed out

Projection.

[Tennessee Nana]

The LDS Church not only does that, but calls itself the very Church of Jesus Christ because it is the churc of no man, but was organized personally by Jesus Christ.
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You dont know that personally or for sure...

[Tennessee Nana]

Can you show me an example of where Christ tore down the faith of a person who was not from his own faith?
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The woman by the well... John 4:7-30

Jesus said to her, “Ye worship ye know not what. We know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews...” John 4:22

[Elsie]

private mail lacks a LOT!

[Tennessee Nana]

ROFLMBO