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Why Evangelicals are Returning to Rome
CIC ^ | April 2008 | Bob DeWaay

Posted on 05/02/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Augustinian monk

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To: hosepipe
Too messy for a German

LOL!!!

501 posted on 05/04/2008 12:05:59 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: MarkBsnr
Regarding your comments about the "savages in Africa," they are available for anyone to read and appraise all on their own.

It's actually a wonderful method of learning, much like what we're told to do with the Bible. Read it and learn from it.

502 posted on 05/04/2008 12:11:34 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Thank you so very much for sharing your insights and for those beautiful Scriptures!

Speaking of "filling" ...

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. - Acts 2:4

Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel, - Acts 4:8

Then Saul, (who also [is called] Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, - Acts 13:9

And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God. - Ephesians 3:19

To God be the glory!

503 posted on 05/04/2008 12:12:40 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: suzyjaruki
Yes, it does come up quite often. Thank you for your encouragements!
504 posted on 05/04/2008 12:22:03 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MarkBsnr
Umm, you may wish to consider what Scripture is. It is what we wrote as an accompanying manual for the teachings of the Church. The Church is what Jesus left for us, not writings. The NT wasn't put together for 300 years after Jesus was taken up to Heaven.

268 posted on 05/03/2008 3:38:02 PM PDT by MarkBsnr

Just so I don't forget.

505 posted on 05/04/2008 12:23:08 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel, - Acts 4:8

Then Saul, (who also [is called] Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, - Acts 13:9

AMEN!

Thank you for those perfect examples of human beings besides Mary who were "filled with the Holy Spirit."

As you and I and all Bible-believing Christians are likewise filled, by the grace of God for His glory.

506 posted on 05/04/2008 12:26:44 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Thank you for your encouragements, dear sister in Christ!
507 posted on 05/04/2008 12:29:40 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
When we look for them, the verses are everywhere. God fills with grace those who are His, according to His mercy.

"For he satisfieth the longing soul, and filleth the hungry soul with goodness." -- Psalm 107:9


"And the disciples were filled with joy, and with the Holy Ghost." -- Acts 13:52


508 posted on 05/04/2008 12:38:09 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Do you excerpt from people's remarks or do you post every word they write?

That's what elipsis are for, and you didn't use them.

Which is pretty funny considering how you squall later in the thread about people putting words in your mouth.

As I said, including the extra words would in no way change what was meant nor written.

That is patently and demonstrably false. The part you left out was the part that indicated the writer was being sarcastic.

509 posted on 05/04/2008 12:53:57 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Religion Moderator
Putting words in another poster's mouth is "making it personal."

See post 364.

510 posted on 05/04/2008 1:03:39 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
[you may wish to consider what Scripture is. It is what we wrote as an accompanying manual for the teachings of the Church.]

DING! DING! DING!!! We have a winner, folks! The church at Rome wrote the Bible!!! Such foul hubris knows no limit. God forgive them.

Well, they are half right!

The corrupt line of New Age Bibles, from the Critical text types do come from the RCC.

The Holy Spirit was responsible for the pure line of Bible, found in the Received Text Bibles of the Reformation.

511 posted on 05/04/2008 5:56:38 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
You are correct, only Christ was said to be 'full of Grace', Mary was said to have 'found favor with God'.

I think the RC are confusing what the Bible says about Mary and what they pray when they say their 'hail Mary-full of grace nonsense

In fact, Jael(Jud.5:24) is said to be blessed ABOVE women, while Mary was said to only to be blessed AMONG women.(Lk.1:28)

512 posted on 05/04/2008 6:06:59 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: RobbyS
In any case, in worshiping the Eucharist we are worshiping the present Christ, not a symbol of our faith.

Like the movie, 'GroundHog Day'...

Continuing to murder Jesus, every day, all day long is worshipping Jesus???

You need to get Jesus off the Cross...He's not there...He is risen...

You don't worship Him with bread and wine...You worship GOD with Spirit and Truth...

513 posted on 05/04/2008 6:17:51 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool; RobbyS; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
Yawn. Your opinions are that, opinions. We who follow Christ obey and He told us what to do. He also appointed Apostles to teach, to bind and to loose. You do not have that power so your opinions have no weight. +

Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

514 posted on 05/04/2008 6:23:38 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Alamo-Girl; madd dawg
[ In fact, Jael(Jud.5:24) is said to be blessed ABOVE women, while Mary was said to only to be blessed AMONG women.(Lk.1:28) ]

Good find... LoL...

515 posted on 05/04/2008 7:01:05 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg
The fastest growing religious movement in Central and South America is the Pentecostal movement. It is growing so fast and causing so many to leave the Roman Catholic church that they are beginning to feel the usual backlash of persecution.

It's interesting how some things never change. Instead of rejoicing in the joy of new found brothers and sisters in Christ there is a concern because they are not members in the "right" church.

Another interesting feature in Central America is the Roman Catholic church’s history in the “Theology of Liberation” movement; a decided marxist movement that was the spiritual energizer of revolutions in the countries.

Good point. I thought the last pope had tried to eliminate these clergy with the marxist agenda from their ranks.

516 posted on 05/04/2008 7:16:23 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; papertyger
To avoid "putting words in another Freeper's mouth" and thereby "making it personal" - when you are paraphrasing another Freeper be sure to indicate that it is a paraphrase and not a direct quote.

For instance, "Bibliolatry equals believing the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible!" [paraphrase]

517 posted on 05/04/2008 8:55:05 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

I did not put words in another poster’s mouth.


518 posted on 05/04/2008 9:12:41 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: CaspersGh0sts

The RCC is not a monolith either. It contains everything from liberals to traditionalists who want the Mass to still be in Latin. That is even more evident as you travel from one country to another.


519 posted on 05/04/2008 9:15:09 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (Obama is the anti-Reagan, instead of opposing the world's tyrants, he wants to embrace them)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Religion Moderator
yewn

You put that word in italics which implies I wrote that word as you wrote it which is a lie. (My post said "Yawn.")

I give you credit, however. You manage to find new ways to break the FR rules every day.

520 posted on 05/04/2008 9:15:22 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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