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Why Evangelicals are Returning to Rome
CIC ^ | April 2008 | Bob DeWaay

Posted on 05/02/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Augustinian monk

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To: Iscool

That is the root.

Nonetheless, Luke 1:28 uses the perfect past participle, “Kecharitomene.”


521 posted on 05/04/2008 9:17:14 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski

Compare post 476 and 489 - where the poster’s words were repeated, mangled as if spoken by an idiot.


522 posted on 05/04/2008 9:18:24 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: fortheDeclaration
Mary was said to have 'found favor with God'.

That is a common protestant mistranslation. Quite intentional, I think.

523 posted on 05/04/2008 9:19:43 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Religion Moderator

Precisely the same thing was done in 476. I did not type “yewn,” that would be the word of an idiot.

My 489 made issue of this by repeating her behavior. That was my point.


524 posted on 05/04/2008 9:21:20 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski
My 489 made issue of this by repeating her behavior. That was my point.

Then she runs complaining to the moderator, LOL.

525 posted on 05/04/2008 9:25:10 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: Petronski; Dr. Eckleburg
Then both of you, knock it off. When you quote another poster, be precise. If you are paraphrasing another poster, mark it clearly as a paraphrase.

But in any case, do NOT "make it personal!"

526 posted on 05/04/2008 9:27:34 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Alamo-Girl
I submit that it is a matter of perspective – not either/or. For one to be “right” the other doesn’t have to be “wrong.”

So true, my dearest sister in Christ! To suggest another analogy, these two views are each truthful "complementarities" that are ultimately unified in the One Light of God's Truth.

Thank you so much for your beautiful essay/post!

527 posted on 05/04/2008 10:22:20 AM PDT by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: betty boop
To suggest another analogy, these two views are each truthful "complementarities" that are ultimately unified in the One Light of God's Truth.

Excellent! Thank you oh so very much for your encouragements, dearest sister in Christ!

528 posted on 05/04/2008 10:26:23 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Indeed. Thank you so very much for those beautiful Scriptures!
529 posted on 05/04/2008 10:28:44 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Titanites

I did NOT expect that. lol


530 posted on 05/04/2008 10:29:25 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Religion Moderator
To avoid "putting words in another Freeper's mouth" and thereby "making it personal" - when you are paraphrasing another Freeper be sure to indicate that it is a paraphrase and not a direct quote.

For instance, "Bibliolatry equals believing the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible!" [paraphrase]

Thanks. That's very good advice.

531 posted on 05/04/2008 10:54:42 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski; Religion Moderator
Regarding "yewn," I had no idea I misspelled the word, "yawn."

(When I'm trying to be funny, I usually try harder than that.)

Sorry for the misspelling.

532 posted on 05/04/2008 10:57:21 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Iscool

Where do you get this stuff? The sacrifice of the mass is a sacrfice of a kind different from those under the Law.


533 posted on 05/04/2008 12:04:30 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The corrupt line of New Age Bibles, from the Critical text types do come from the RCC.

The Holy Spirit was responsible for the pure line of Bible, found in the Received Text Bibles of the Reformation.

AMEN!

534 posted on 05/04/2008 12:20:54 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: fortheDeclaration
In fact, Jael(Jud.5:24) is said to be blessed ABOVE women, while Mary was said to only to be blessed AMONG women.(Lk.1:28)

AMEN! For those with ears to hear.

535 posted on 05/04/2008 12:22:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: All
The Holy Spirit was responsible for the pure line of Bible...

Yes.

...found in the Received Text Bibles of the Reformation.

LOL

536 posted on 05/04/2008 1:05:28 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: SeaHawkFan
You've not heard of the Holy Bible; the inspired WORD OF GOD?

Of course. Again, the issue is not whether a particular belief can be argued by means of Scripture. Even slavery in America was defended using the Holy Bible.

The larger question is what the Holy Bible actually means. Given that there are tens of thousands of Protestant denominations who disagree with one another - and yet claim that they are all based on the Bible - it stands to reason that the Bible as it is written is not sufficiently clear and requires proper intepretation and adaptation.

Thus, when one wishes to correctly understand the meaning of the Scriptures, would it not make sense to compare one's current understanding with that of the Christian community that existed around the time it was written?

So, yes, I know there's a Bible. The question for Protestants is: if how you interpret the Bible is true, why is it that the Christian community did not share your beliefs for the first 1500 years of its existence?
537 posted on 05/04/2008 7:21:08 PM PDT by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; swmobuffalo; muawiyah; Iscool; Manfred the Wonder Dawg

While this post is in reply to #1, I am actually replying to the sum of various posts by you all.

You all have earned my respect.

You have also left me with nothing to say.
(which is a good thing)

Thank you for taking the time to address these issues with such articulation.

I have for a long time wanted to see these two arguments side by side.

Hang in there and keep up the good work.


538 posted on 05/04/2008 7:30:37 PM PDT by Fichori (FreeRepublic.com: Watch your step!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Bump to your post at 505.


539 posted on 05/04/2008 8:34:02 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: mike182d

I am not responsible for what others believe. That said. there are very few basic tenets of the orthodox (small ‘o’ is intentional) Christian faith. Churches that depart from those are in error.


540 posted on 05/04/2008 9:39:22 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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