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Why Evangelicals are Returning to Rome
CIC ^ | April 2008 | Bob DeWaay

Posted on 05/02/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Augustinian monk

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To: Petronski

“The Gospels, Old Testament, Epistles, etc. existed before then, but they were written by Catholics—inspired by God—, preserved by Catholics, and assembled into the Bible by Catholics about 300 years after His Ascension”

This only shows your ignorance. The Old Testament written by Catholics, not hardly. It also shows an agenda to cut out anything that might remotely counter your Catholic only argument.


341 posted on 05/03/2008 5:07:59 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: hosepipe
If the Holy Spirit did not show up WHO WOULD NOTICE or even KNOW.. Answer.... NOBODY..

That's where you are absolutely wrong, but even so "by whom do your sons cast them out?"

342 posted on 05/03/2008 5:09:33 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Petronski
As I've said twice now, Ratzinger hasn't shown himself to contradict the WCF's assertion.

He does, after all, call himself "another Christ" who is "infallible."

343 posted on 05/03/2008 5:09:59 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***Nice of you to answer it once. How do you handle that passage in the WCF? Do you ignore it?

Huh? By your own sentence, you just said I answered your question. Now you’re asking it again?

the answer is still the same. Ratzinger does nothing to disprove the clain in the WCF.***

Once again you pose questions that aren’t there, answer questions that aren’t posed and ignore questions that are. I asked you here that if you don’t consider Benedict XVI to be the antiChrist, how do you reconcile it with the WCF?

I understand that these questions are hard and go to the core of your religious heresy, but please try to stay on topic.


344 posted on 05/03/2008 5:10:03 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Not a perpetual sacrifice as if the first one wasn't enough.

Ah, I think you're playing The Game again.

Do you mean this statement to be in contrast to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass?

Your epithet does not describe the Holy Eucharist.

345 posted on 05/03/2008 5:10:22 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
You either accept the paragraph I quoted or you do not.

Your second sentence is loaded down with your (or is it Machen's) false interpretations.

346 posted on 05/03/2008 5:11:56 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski

Just post the Scripture that defends your position. And when you can’t, consider that perhaps you’re not seeing things clearly, or that you’ve swallowed a lie that is not going to settle well on your stomach or your soul.


347 posted on 05/03/2008 5:12:00 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: swmobuffalo

***Not a dude. The only “gift” I need, I already have. Thanks, but no thanks.***

If you don’t have the gift of the Bible given by us to you, what do you have?

You’re not into anything by Anton LaVey are you?


348 posted on 05/03/2008 5:12:35 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Please show me where I’ve misstated something or gotten something wrong.


349 posted on 05/03/2008 5:14:05 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: hosepipe
You just CUT the Holy SPirit right out of the loop

Yep. It is a consistent error of Rome.

350 posted on 05/03/2008 5:15:19 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I’m unwilling to play Scripture Joust with someone sporting so epic a record of misrepresenting my beliefs.

I simply do not trust you.


351 posted on 05/03/2008 5:15:32 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***And when you can’t, consider that perhaps you’re not seeing things clearly, or that you’ve swallowed a lie that is not going to settle well on your stomach or your soul.***

A fine post coming from somebody who joined a cult barely older than I am in years that came from the dissolution, immolation and raiding from various other cults.

You may want to consider the peril that your own soul may be in.


352 posted on 05/03/2008 5:15:45 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
It is a consistent error of Rome.

Such repetitive misrepresentation of Catholicism is a consistent error of New Jersey.

353 posted on 05/03/2008 5:16:45 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: swmobuffalo
The Old Testament written by Catholics, not hardly.

Forgive me, this was an error on my part. They were written by Jews, obviously. But they were included in the Canon--made into the Old Testametn--by Catholics.

I apologize for my hasty misstatement.

354 posted on 05/03/2008 5:18:47 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Petronski

***Please show me where I’ve misstated something or gotten something wrong.***

Certainly. You have misstated my questioning of whether you consider Benedict XVI the antiChrist and how you reconcile that with the WCF to which you fiercely cleave.

Your acceptance of the WCF and Reform theology is in stark contrast to the Bible and as such is wrong.

More examples required?


355 posted on 05/03/2008 5:18:50 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Petronski
When you said “your tradition” you included all Catholics, since you are speaking about Catholic traditions, not just Lurking’s.

When I asked him if he were "frosted" I asked him, not all Catholics. Could ya try and not be such a busybody. I know its hard for ya.

356 posted on 05/03/2008 5:19:04 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Petronski
In making it plural, you referred to more than just me.

Oh sorry. I meant only you.

357 posted on 05/03/2008 5:19:51 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Petronski
In making it plural, you referred to more than just me.

Oh sorry. I meant only you.

358 posted on 05/03/2008 5:19:55 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: MarkBsnr

“If you don’t have the gift of the Bible given by us to you, what do you have?”

YOU didn’t give me anything, God through the Holy Spirit gave us the Scriptures. God used men of faith to write them, and sort out the false from the true.

“You’re not into anything by Anton LaVey are you?”

Typical attack. Can’t argue with the facts so the personal insults appear.


359 posted on 05/03/2008 5:20:50 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

You need to choose your words more carefully. “Your tradition” could be singular or plural, but since it is not his tradition alone, it must be plural.


360 posted on 05/03/2008 5:21:01 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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