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SELF-GOVERNMENT - MYSTERIES... ADAM, OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD
Journal of Discourses ^ | APRIL 9, 1852 | Mormon Prophet Brigham Young

Posted on 05/08/2008 7:35:38 PM PDT by P-Marlowe

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To: Religion Moderator

I’ll stay off their posts


121 posted on 05/09/2008 8:56:51 AM PDT by stockpirate (20,000,000 reasons to NOT support McCain, immigration.)
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To: stockpirate

Attributing motives and reading minds is “making it personal” which is not tolerable in religious debate.


122 posted on 05/09/2008 9:00:13 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Sorry, I will refrain from doing so in the future.

They do however the same to me by saying my questions are because I am a Mormon or a member of a cult group.

These attacks feel personal to me.


123 posted on 05/09/2008 9:24:10 AM PDT by stockpirate (20,000,000 reasons to NOT support McCain, immigration.)
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To: stockpirate
Bring the post to my attention and I will review it.

A poster may say "I think you are x" and that is not making it personal because he is not reading your mind but revealing his own. Likewise, if he says "You are x" that is not making it personal because he is speaking his own mind, not yours.

If he is in error, responding "Not so" or "Untrue" or "That statement is false" is not making it personal. But responding "you are a liar" would be making it personal because the word "lie" means there was an intent to deceive.

I can and do intervene to keep posters from "making it personal" but there is nothing I can do to keep posters from "taking it personally."

124 posted on 05/09/2008 9:31:54 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: stockpirate; Religion Moderator; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Elsie
These attacks feel personal to me.

As poster of this thread I do not want to see any "personal attacks" on any of the posters here.

As I stated at the beginning of the thread I wanted everyone to "Keep it Civil".

If you feel that I have somehow personally attacked you, I would request that you point out that post.

If you feel you have been personally attacked by any of the other posters, then I will use my influence to try to stop it. Apparently you believe that I am somehow the "Leader" of a cult of religious zealots*, so if that is the case, then they ought to follow my instructions.

Thank you for your posts.

*I suspect that you think that callling somone a leader of a cult of religious zealots is NOT a personal attack. FWIW, I don't take it personally. :-)

125 posted on 05/09/2008 9:53:11 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

thanks, and I do not take what was said about me as personal, I see it as an attempt to divert from the issues.


126 posted on 05/09/2008 10:38:14 AM PDT by stockpirate (20,000,000 reasons to NOT support McCain, immigration.)
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To: Elsie

Some of your recent posts to me have nothing to do with me as I did not post what you are replying to.


127 posted on 05/09/2008 10:43:12 AM PDT by stockpirate (20,000,000 reasons to NOT support McCain, immigration.)
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To: Elsie

sorry, my bad, I thought I was reading my pings but was actually in the tread.


128 posted on 05/09/2008 10:50:46 AM PDT by stockpirate (20,000,000 reasons to NOT support McCain, immigration.)
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To: stockpirate
thanks, and I do not take what was said about me as personal, I see it as an attempt to divert from the issues.

I do not mean this as a personal attack, but you earlier admitted that you did not read the sermon.

Since you didn't read the sermon then how can you make an intelligent determination that what someone else is posting is an attempt to divert from the issues.

What, pray tell, in your mind are the issues?

129 posted on 05/09/2008 10:53:19 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Religion Moderator

So I can call everyone I disagree with here a Scientologist just cause I think they are? cool.


130 posted on 05/09/2008 11:00:04 AM PDT by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out. All three of them.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I came across some of the posters on another thread.

I was accused of being in a cult, a member of LDS.

I assumed rightly or wrongly that these LDS posts were anti-Mitt or Anti-Mormon.

The attacks drew my glance to another area.

And when I asked a question I was attacked with statements implying I am a member of the LDS cult.

So, the attackers made me the issue as to why I would even ask a question.

Just look at a recent post on the thread, bassically saying anything you ask or any answer given makes you a member of LDS.


131 posted on 05/09/2008 11:52:25 AM PDT by stockpirate (20,000,000 reasons to NOT support McCain, immigration.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Using your standers, you have once again proven the Bible to be false.

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All I did was post Brigham Young's sermon. Was that comment directed to him?

Did Brigham Young prove the Bible false?

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No, we are just using your standard to judge the Bible.

It is YOU who proves the Bible is not true.

It is YOUR standard that that proves the Bible is false.

Or do you use one stand on yourself, and another on those you disagree with?

132 posted on 05/09/2008 11:58:35 AM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: bonfire

“Gods they do not believe in just one God”

Do you believe in just one God?


133 posted on 05/09/2008 11:59:50 AM PDT by stockpirate (20,000,000 reasons to NOT support McCain, immigration.)
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To: stockpirate
Your group of zealots are full of anger....

You mistake our KNOWLEDGE with Anger.

You somehow equate the MORMON denial of historical facts as a walk with GOD.

134 posted on 05/09/2008 12:04:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stockpirate
Again you prove my point, accussing me of being a Mormon or of having been.

Sorry, but you assumption is wrong.

One does NOT need to be a MORMON to attend BYU.


You do what most liberals do, shift attention from the topic at hand.

My guess is that your group are anti -Mitt for VP, maybe even pro Hucksters, a big bag of wind socialist.

Uh...

I don't play defense well.

135 posted on 05/09/2008 12:06:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: P-Marlowe

Is that a GUN in your pocket?


136 posted on 05/09/2008 12:06:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stockpirate
So when the posters attack me for asking questions, accuse me of being a cult member, or a Mormon these personal attacks are fine?

ATTACK YOU?

Are you SURE you've not gone to BYU?

137 posted on 05/09/2008 12:07:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stockpirate
They do however the same to me by saying my questions are because I am a Mormon or a member of a cult group.

Methinks thou reads too much INTO a statement.

138 posted on 05/09/2008 12:08:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Religion Moderator
Bring the post to my attention and I will review it.

VERY good idea!

139 posted on 05/09/2008 12:09:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Religion Moderator
I can and do intervene to keep posters from "making it personal" but there is nothing I can do to keep posters from "taking it personally."

AMEN!


Oh I'd LOVE to post THIS; but it is a bandwidth waster!

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140 posted on 05/09/2008 12:11:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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