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How to become a Catholic
Catholic Information Network ^ | September 1995 | James Akin

Posted on 05/10/2008 1:06:02 PM PDT by annalex

How to become a Catholic

by James Akin

Becoming a Catholic is one of the most profound and joyous experiences of life. Some are blessed enough to receive this great gift while they are still infants, and over the course of time they grow into a recognition of the enormous grace that has been bestowed upon them, of the dignity and wonder of their identity as Catholics. Others come into the Catholic fold while they are older children or adults. In these cases it is necessary for people to have a grasp of the joyful process by which one becomes a Catholic.

A person is brought into full communion with the Catholic Church through reception of the three sacraments of Christian initiation--baptism, confirmation, and the holy Eucharist--but the process by which one becomes a Catholic can take different forms.

A person who is baptized in the Catholic Church becomes a Catholic at that moment. One's initiation is deepened by confirmation and the Eucharist, but one becomes a Catholic at baptism. This true both for children who are baptized Catholic (and receive the other two sacraments later) and for adults who are baptized, confirmed, and receive the Eucharist at the same time.

Those who have been validly baptized outside the Catholic Church become Catholics by making a profession of the Catholic faith and being formally received into the Church. This is normally followed immediately by confirmation and the Eucharist.

Before a person is ready to be received into the Catholic Church, whether by baptism or by profession of faith, preparation is necessary. The amount and the form of this preparation depends on the individual's circumstance. The most basic division in the kind of preparation needed is between those who are unbaptized and those who have already become Christian through baptism in different denominations.

For adults and children who have reached the age of reason (age seven), entrance into the Church is governed by the Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults (RCIA), sometimes called the Order of Christian Initiation for Adults (OCIA).

Preparation for the Unbaptized

Preparation for reception into the Church begins with the inquiry stage, in which the unbaptized person begins to learn about the Catholic faith and begins to decide whether to embrace it.

The first formal step on the road to becoming a Catholic takes place with the rite of reception into the order of catechumens, in which the unbaptized express their desire and intention to become Christians. "Catechumen" is a term the early Christians used to those preparing to be baptized and become Christians.

The period of catechumenate lasts for a variable period of time--sometimes even years--depending on how much the catechumen has learned and how ready the catechumen feels to take the step of becoming a Christian. However, the catechumenate often lasts for something less than a year.

The purpose of the catechumenate is to provide the candidates with a thorough background in Christian teaching. "A thoroughly comprehensive catechesis on the truths of Catholic doctrine and moral life, aided by approved catechetical texts, is to be provided during the period of the catechumenate" (U.S. Conference of Bishops, National Statues for the Catechumenate, Nov. 11, 1986). The catechumenate is also intended to give the candidates the opportunity to reflect upon and firm up their desire to become Catholics, and to give them the chance to show that they are ready to take this serious step (cf. Luke 14:27-33; 2 Pet. 2:20-22).

The second formal step is taken with the rite of election, in which the catechumens' names are written in a book of those who will receive the sacraments of initiation. At the rite of election, the catechumen again expresses the desire and intention to become a Christian, and the Church judges that the catechumen is ready to take this step. Normally, the rite of election occurs on the first Sunday of Lent, the forty day period of preparation for Easter.

After the rite of election, the candidates undergo a period of more intense reflection, purification, and enlightenment, in which they deepen their commitment to repentance and conversion to the Christian faith. During this period the candidates, now known as the elect, participate in several further rituals.

The three chief rituals, known as "scrutinies," are normally celebrated at Mass on the third, fourth, and fifth Sundays of Lent. The scrutinies are rites for self-searching and repentance. They are meant to bring out the qualities of the candidate's soul, to heal those qualities which are weak or sinful, and to strengthen those which are positive and good.

Normally during this period, the candidates are also formally presented with the Apostles' Creed and the Lord's Prayer, both of which they will recite on the night they are initiated.

The initiation itself usually occurs on Easter Vigil, the evening before Easter Day. That evening a special Mass is celebrated at which the candidates are baptized, then given confirmation, and finally receive the holy Eucharist. At this point the candidates become Catholics and are received into full communion with the Church.

Ordinarily the bishop oversees the Easter Vigil service and confers confirmation upon the candidates, but often--due to large distances or numbers of candidates--a local parish priest will perform the rites.

The final state of Christian initiation is known as mystagogy, in which the new Christians are strengthened in the faith by further instruction and become more deeply rooted in the local Catholic community. The period of mystagogy normally lasts throughout the Easter season (the fifty days between Eastern and Pentecost Sunday).

For the first year of their life as Christians, those who have been received are known as "neophytes" or "new Christians."

Preparation for Christians

The means by which those who have already been validly baptized become part of the Church differs considerably from that of the unbaptized.

Because they have already been baptized, they are already Christians and are not catechumens. Because they have already become Christians, the Church is very concerned that they not be confused with those who are still in the process of becoming Christians. In its National Statues for the Catechumenate (hereafter, NSC), the U.S. Conference of Bishops stated: "The term 'catechumen' should be strictly reserved for the unbaptized who have been admitted to the order of catechumens . . . and never used of those baptized Christians who are received into the full communion of the Catholic Church" (NSC 2).

"Those who have already been baptized in another Church or ecclesial community should not be treated as catechumens or so designated. Their doctrinal and spiritual preparation for reception into full Catholic communion should be determined according to the individual case, that is, it should depend on the extent to which the baptized person has led a Christian life within a community of faith and been appropriately catechized to deepen his or her inner adherence to the Church" (NSC 30).

For those who were baptized but who have never been instructed in the Christian faith or lived as Christians, it is appropriate for them to receive much of the same instruction in the faith as catechumens, but they are still not catechumens and are not to be referred to as such (NSC 3). As a result, they are not to participate in the rites intended for catechumens, such as the scrutinies. Even "[t]he rites of presentation of the creed, the Lord's Prayer, and the book of the Gospels are not proper except for those who have received no Christian instruction and formation" (NSC 31).

For those who have been instructed in the Christian faith and have lived as Christians the situation is different. The U.S. Conference of Bishops states: "Those baptized persons who have lived as Christians and need only instruction in the Catholic tradition and a degree of probation within the Catholic community should not be asked to undergo a full program parallel to the catechumenate" (NSC 31). For this reason they should not share in the same, full RCIA programs that catechumens do.

The timing of their reception into the Church is also different. The U.S. Conference of Bishops states: "It is preferable that reception into full communion not take place at the Easter Vigil lest there be any confusion of such baptized Christians with the candidates for baptism, possible misunderstanding of or even reflection upon the sacrament of baptism celebrated in another Church or ecclesial community . . . " (NSC 33).

Rather than being received on Easter Vigil, "[t]he reception of candidates into the communion of the Catholic Church should ordinarily take place at the Sunday Eucharist of the parish community, in such a way that it is understood that they are indeed Christian believers who have already shared in the sacramental life of the Church and are now welcomed into the Catholic Eucharistic community . . . " (NSC 32).

It is therefore important for Christians coming into the Catholic Church to coordinate carefully with their local pastor and/or bishop concerning the amount of Catholic instruction they need and the exact timing of their reception into the Church.

The sacrament of baptism removes all sins committed prior to it, but since Christians have already received this sacrament, it is necessary for them to confess mortal sins they have committed since baptism before receiving confirmation and the Eucharist. In some cases, this can be difficult due to a large number of years between the Christian's baptism and reception into the Catholic Church. In such cases, the candidate should confess the mortal sins he can remember by kind and, to the extent possible, indicate how often such sins were committed (as always with the sacrament of reconciliation, the absolution covers any mortal sins that could not be remembered, so long as the recipient intended to repent of and confess all mortal sins).

Christians coming into the Church receive the sacrament of reconciliation before their reception into the Church: "The celebration of the sacrament of reconciliation with candidates for reception into full communion is to be carried out at a time prior to and distinct from the celebration of the rite of reception" (NSC 36).

The Christian fully enters the Church by profession of faith and formal reception. For the profession of faith, the candidate says: "I believe and profess all that the holy Catholic Church believes, teaches, and proclaims to be revealed by God." The bishop or priest then formally receives the Christian into the Church by saying, "[Name], the Lord receives you into the Catholic Church. His loving kindness has led you here, so that in the unity of the Holy Spirit you may have full communion with us in the faith that you have professed in the presence of this his family."

The bishop or priest then normally administers the sacraments of confirmation and celebrates the holy Eucharist, giving the new Catholic the Eucharist for the first time.

Reception in Special Cases

In some situations, there may be a doubt concerning whether a person's baptism was valid. All baptisms are assumed valid, regardless of denomination, unless after serious investigation there is reason to doubt that the candidate was baptized with water and the Trinitarian formula (". . . in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit") or that the minister or recipient of baptism did not intend it to be an actual baptism.

If there is reason to doubt whether a person's baptism was valid (or whether the person was baptized at all), then the candidate will be given a conditional baptism (one with the form, ". . . if you are not already baptized, I baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit").

"If conditional baptism . . . seems necessary, this must be celebrated privately rather than at a public liturgical assembly of the community and with only those limited rites which the diocesan bishop determines. The reception into full communion should take place later at the Sunday Eucharist of the community" (NSC 37).

Another special case is that of those who have been baptized as Catholics but who not been brought up in the faith or not received the sacraments of confirmation and the Eucharist. "Although baptized adult Catholics who have never received catechetical instruction or been admitted to the sacraments of confirmation and Eucharist are not catechumens, some elements of the usual catechumenal formation are appropriate to their preparation for the sacraments, in accord with the norms of the ritual, 'Preparation of Uncatechized Adults for Confirmation and Eucharist'" (NSC 25).

A final case is that of Catholics who received confirmation and the Eucharist but who left the Church by a formal act, such as joining another church or denomination. Normally individuals in this situation can come back to the Church and become Catholics again by going to confession and being reconciled. Unless there are complicating circumstances, most priests have the faculty to receive people back into the Church in this manner.

Waiting for reception

It can be a time of anxious longing while one waits to feel the warm embrace of the Church and to be immersed into Catholic society. This time of waiting and reflection is necessary, since becoming a Catholic is a momentous event of great importance, but waiting can be quite painful as one looks forward with anticipation to the sacraments, especially the Eucharist, and to the joys of Catholic life--the strength and security that being a faithful Catholic bestows on one. Yet even before being received, those waiting to be incorporated already have a very real and very special relationship with the Church.

In the case of those who are already Christians, their baptism itself forms a certain sacramental relationship with the Church (cf. Vatican II, Unitatis Redintegratio 3; Catechism of the Catholic Church 1271). They are also joined to the Church by their very intention to enter it, as are the unbaptized who intend to do so: "Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, desire with an explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined to her. With love and solicitude mother Church already embraces them as her own" (Vatican II, Lumen Gentium 14:3; CCC 1249).

Thus even before one is fully incorporated into the Church, one can already enjoy the status of being recognized by the Church as one of her own, precious children.

A copy of the National Statutes for the Catechumenate by the U.S. National Conference of Catholic Bishops is found in Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults (New York: Catholic Book Publishing Co., 1988), pp. 391-396.

This article appeared in the September 1995 issue of This Rock magazine.

Copyright (c) 1996 by James Akin. All Rights Reserved.


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To: annalex

I am a Presbyterian who enjoys going to Mass.


41 posted on 05/10/2008 6:05:57 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Skooz

I deny the Catholic church has done more good works than anyone. I deny it as strongly as possible. You didn't answer my questions about what Rome actually teaches. Is it correct for a church to teach its congregants that there are "other Christs" and "co-redeemers?"

Sounds like the fast track to hell, imo.

Certainly there are saved Christians among the RCC but it is in spite of Rome's teachings, not because of them.

Additionally, "good works" don't save anyone. We are called to be in service to God alone, and He will perform good works in us in order to permit us to help the least among us. But those works are the Holy Spirit in us, not our own good works, which are as "filthy rags" to God.

The only "good work" that saves anyone is Jesus Christ's work on the cross, given according to God's free, unmerited mercy alone.

Saved by grace through faith in Christ.

This is pretty basic stuff. It sounds like you may have missed a few Sunday school classes if you're a Protestant. What denomination do you belong to?

42 posted on 05/10/2008 6:06:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Testimony of an Ex-catholic

A much longer, but very comprehensive, testimony here:

TESTIMONY OF RICHARD BENNET (EX-CATHOLIC PRIEST)

50 Years in the 'Church' of Rome (testimony of ex R.C. priest Charles Chinquay - 1886)

Please understand that there are literally MILLIONS of Catholics "dumping Rome" and it is simply impossible to post all their testimonies. These "choice" few testimonies should more than amply illustrate WHY they and millions like them are choosing to dump Rome.

I've seen the above testimony in various manifestations time and time again, but they all fundamentally share a predeominant underpinning: a spritual hunger predicated on a feeling "this can't be it." Often these are lifelong Catholics who become disillusioned, for various reasons, with empty man-made formulaic ritual and vain repetitious prayer, and vacuous pomp-and-circumstance accouterments of the Church. Usually those who actually spend time in the Book looking for answers invariably come to the same conclusion.

The predominant issues at the forefront usually pertain to subjects such as the primacy of Peter, papal infallibility, the priesthood, infant baptism, confession, the mass, purgatory, the immaculate conception of Mary, and the bodily assumption of Mary into heaven. Over time many come to the realization that not only are these beliefs not in the Bible, they are actually contrary to the clear teaching of the Scripture. Finally the barrier against having personal convictions is broken and all doubt in their minds about the Biblical view on these subjects is erased.

The consequences of this realization are usually quite severe. Not just a mrere superficial RCC ex-communication, but a very real social ex-communication from their family. Most Catholics are Catholic because their parents were, their grandparents were, all their aunts, uncles, neices, nephews are Catholic. This is no small trifeling matter. Many that come to a Scriptural understanding about the doctrine of salvation remain in the Church despite the error riddled dogma proclaimed from Rome. They remain in the Church out of loyalty to their family. They may stay within the Church for years. They may even, as I have come to know, lead catechism classes.

But ultimately, the thing that severes the chord of binding is a decision to the raging questoin (and nagging guilt)to the question: Who was to be Lord of their life, i.e., either Jesus Christ in His Word or the Roman Catholic Church? That the Catholic Church was supreme in all matters of faith and morals is something that usually has been dyed into Catholics brains since they were children.

But succinctly put, it boils down to this:

Realization that God's Word in the Bible is absolute and without error (contrary to what had been taught that the Word is relative and that its truthfulness in many areas was to be questioned). Once the Catholic realizes that they can began to understand that the Bible could, in fact, be trusted, through the aid of reference works such as Strong's Concordance, A.T. Robertson's Word Studies, et ali, they begin to actually STUDY the Bible in order to see what it says about itself. They realize that the Bible teaches clearly that it is from God and is absolute in what it says. It is true in its history, in the promises God has made, in its prophecies, in the moral commands it gives, and in how to live the Christian life. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works" (II Timothy 3:16-17).

If, then, Scripture is OF God, and God absolutely needs to be obeyed, then they can no longer "fellowship" in the RCC.

Evengelicals are not called to convice people of doctrinal error, but to share the Truth. The convincing part is accomplished by the Holy Spirit. Catholics become "born-again" not overnight, but after a prolonged period of struggle, anguish and mental torment. And for many if not all, the ultimate decision is a very heartwrenching one indeed. Catholics who leave the Church do so because of the Truth, those who remain in it do so despite the truth. The Book says "seek and ye shall find, ask and it will be answered, knock and the door shall be opened."

These are not dogmatic, intellectual or pedantic excercises that the Catholic engages in, but a deeply rooted spiritual one. If one approaches the matter by asking for guidance and illumination by the Holy Spirit, the revelation WILL come. And when it does come, then a most blessed sense of relief is bestowed when all doubt and uncertainty is removed. I've heard tell so many times I can't count them, that when the final realization manifests itself, the sense of an immense burden and weight being removed from the shoulders conveys such a sense of wonderment and joy that almost everybody who describes the experience, with the virtual exclusion of nobody, becomes very emotional (and for some depending on how devout they used to be - VERY much so).

43 posted on 05/10/2008 6:11:43 PM PDT by raygun (24.14% of the Voting Age Population elected Slick (The Cigar) Willey to a second term.)
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To: Skooz
And you will see from post number 42, if you fail to agree with him, he will challenge your Faith.

Don't fall for it. It's not an worthy argument to get into. He'll just change his attack from the Catholic Church to you. You'll respond that you are indeed a good Christian, and now you've fallen into his trap.

Nothing to see here except hatred. No Christian love at all.

44 posted on 05/10/2008 6:11:59 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: PAR35; Alex Murphy
I've noticed a lot of the 'coming home' success stories tend to have had a checkered past of jumping from one belief system to another. We read about them swimming the Tiber, but I wonder how many move on to something else a few years down the road.

There was a thread a few years ago that showed that very fact. They simply switch again.

A lot of them become converts in the first place for marital "harmony" since many of them are marrying Catholics and figure it's easier to swim and risk drowning rather than try to convince their spouse of a more Scriptural perspective.

45 posted on 05/10/2008 6:12:54 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: raygun; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Manfred the Wonder Dawg; 1000 silverlings; Quix; HarleyD; ...
Amen! Thank you for those wonderful testimonies. Those links should each be posted as a thread.

Realization that God's Word in the Bible is absolute and without error (contrary to what had been taught that the Word is relative and that its truthfulness in many areas was to be questioned). Once the Catholic realizes that they can began to understand that the Bible could, in fact, be trusted, through the aid of reference works such as Strong's Concordance, A.T. Robertson's Word Studies, et ali, they begin to actually STUDY the Bible in order to see what it says about itself. They realize that the Bible teaches clearly that it is from God and is absolute in what it says. It is true in its history, in the promises God has made, in its prophecies, in the moral commands it gives, and in how to live the Christian life. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works" (II Timothy 3:16-17).

If, then, Scripture is OF God, and God absolutely needs to be obeyed, then they can no longer "fellowship" in the RCC.

AMEN!

46 posted on 05/10/2008 6:19:33 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: cyborg

I’ll keep my rosary warm.

Putting your Mom on my prayer list.


47 posted on 05/10/2008 6:21:04 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Oh for crying out loud, you didn’t even bother to READ my post, did you?


48 posted on 05/10/2008 6:21:15 PM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect Hillary Clinton as its president has forfeited its right to exist.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Nothing to see here except hatred. No Christian love at all.

I noticed. Thanks for the warning.

49 posted on 05/10/2008 6:23:54 PM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect Hillary Clinton as its president has forfeited its right to exist.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I haven’t been keeping up with the numbers, but aren’t most of the ‘coming home’ folks male? I can’t recall them touting large numbers of women making the swim.


50 posted on 05/10/2008 6:25:13 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Skooz
Oh for crying out loud, you didn’t even bother to READ my post, did you?

lol. No need to cry out loud or silently in your room alone.

I read every word of your post and I disagreed with just about every one of them.

I do not believe an institution which leads men away from Christ to "another Christ" and to a "co-redeemer" is in any way a good and Godly church. Rome needs to repent.

No king but Christ.

What Protestant denomination are you?

51 posted on 05/10/2008 6:27:31 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Skooz

I am willing to bet that Christ loves Catholics more than some who call themselves Christians.


52 posted on 05/10/2008 6:28:11 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: PAR35
Interesting. I wonder if men just don't want to fight about it. They give up and give in rather than work to convince the wife of a more Scriptural perspective.

Perhaps that goes along with the general push these days to diminish fathers as the heads of their household. Sad.

53 posted on 05/10/2008 6:29:39 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I was not, and am not, talking about salvation by works or grace. I am not talking doctrine. I am not talking spiritual error.

I am talking strictly of the good things they have done for millions of people over the course of 2000 years. Period.

You disagree that no institution has clothed more naked, fed more hungry and housed more homeless than the Catholic Church?

Fine. Name any institution that has done more in those lines.

Go ahead. Name the institution that has fed more hungry over the past 2000 years than the Catholic Chruch.


54 posted on 05/10/2008 6:33:13 PM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect Hillary Clinton as its president has forfeited its right to exist.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I’m pretty sure him is a her.


55 posted on 05/10/2008 6:33:22 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Alas Babylon!
It's a courtesy to ping someone you are discussing in a post.

Especially a post about "Christian love."

56 posted on 05/10/2008 6:34:58 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Skooz
You were the one who told the forum you were not a Catholic but some kind of "evangelical Christian."

What denomination are you a member of?

57 posted on 05/10/2008 6:36:21 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.


58 posted on 05/10/2008 6:37:36 PM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect Hillary Clinton as its president has forfeited its right to exist.)
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To: Skooz
Every Protestant church on earth, and every soup kitchen, and every Salvation Army and every Goodwill have done more for men's bodies and souls than the Roman Catholic church.

There's my answer. Now please answer my question as you said you would. What Protestant denomination are you a member of?

59 posted on 05/10/2008 6:39:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: annalex
Unless the child can express that they except Jesus as Lord and Savior they can not be baptized and it be excepted by Jesus as done. Also it has to be full immersion
60 posted on 05/10/2008 6:43:56 PM PDT by 1Truthseeker (willfully ignorant in Greek means dumb on purpose.)
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