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To: topcat54; XeniaSt
It seems you are trying to prove something that a) is not taught in the Bible, and b) is inconsequential in any case.

I'm not trying to prove anything. What I'm trying to show everyone is the lack of Biblical perception in referring to God's Feasts and Sabbaths as "Jewish Fables". I'm not denying that there is such a thing a "Jewish Fables". I'm denying the fact that God's Holy Days should be considered among them.

BTW, just for reference, the Bible does not teach that Jesus was born on "Sukkot".

Yes it does.

108 posted on 05/24/2008 11:57:59 AM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618
"BTW, just for reference, the Bible does not teach that Jesus was born on "Sukkot"."

Yes it does.

Insisting it is so does not make it so. Give us the plain Scripture that teaches Jesus would be born on a Jewish feast day, any Jewish feast day.

It's interesting the we have a long accounts in both Matthew and Luke about the circumstances surrounding Jesus' birth, such as the story of the coming of the wise men from the East to Herod with news of the impending birth, and not one word about any of this happening on a Jewish feast day. Rather, we are told that it was the appearance of a star that indicated the timing of His birth.

Given the care with which Matthew uses the OT to confirm the messiahship of Jesus, surely he would have quoted from the OT to demonstrate something as significant as the feast day theory if any such passage existed.

But it does not.

It's irrational to wish the Bible to say something it does not clearly say. And so tell us all how is this theory not a fable of men?

129 posted on 05/25/2008 11:59:17 AM PDT by topcat54 ("The selling of bad beer is a crime against Christian love.")
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To: Diego1618
Every week in the synagogue a different section of the Torah and Haftorah is read. Pick up a Hebrew English Chumash, you can even find one at a good used bookstore.

The Hebrew calendar is a lunar calendar and one section is quite enlightening.

Special Sabbath reading when the new moon falls on a Sunday

Haftorah for Shabbat Erev Rosh Chodesh

I Shmuel (Samuel) 20:18-42 Then Jonathan said to David: "Tomorrow is the New Moon festival. You will be missed, because your seat will be empty. The day after tomorrow, toward evening, go to the place where you hid when this trouble began, and wait by the stone Ezel.

I will shoot three arrows to the side of it, as though I were shooting at a target. Then I will send a boy and say, 'Go, find the arrows.' If I say to him, 'Look, the arrows are on this side of you; bring them here,' then come, because, as surely as HaShem lives, you are safe; there is no danger. But if I say to the boy, 'Look, the arrows are beyond you,' then you must go, because HaShem has sent you away. And about the matter you and I discussed--remember, HaShem is witness between you and me forever."

So David hid in the field, and when the New Moon festival came, the king sat down to eat. He sat in his customary place by the wall, opposite Jonathan, and Abner sat next to Saul, but David's place was empty. Saul said nothing that day, for he thought, "Something must have happened to David to make him ceremonially unclean--surely he is unclean." But the next day, the second day of the month, David's place was empty again.

Then Saul said to his son Jonathan, "Why hasn't the son of Jesse come to the meal, either yesterday or today?" Jonathan answered, "David earnestly asked me for permission to go to Bethlehem. He said, 'Let me go, because our family is observing a sacrifice in the town and my brother has ordered me to be there. If I have found favor in your eyes, let me get away to see my brothers.' That is why he has not come to the king's table." Saul's anger flared up at Jonathan and he said to him, "You son of a perverse and rebellious woman! Don't I know that you have sided with the son of Jesse to your own shame and to the shame of the mother who bore you? As long as the son of Jesse lives on this earth, neither you nor your kingdom will be established. Now send and bring him to me, for he must die!" "Why should he be put to death? What has he done?" Jonathan asked his father. But Saul hurled his spear at him to kill him. Then Jonathan knew that his father intended to kill David.

Jonathan got up from the table in fierce anger; on that second day of the month he did not eat, because he was grieved at his father's shameful treatment of David. In the morning Jonathan went out to the field for his meeting with David. He had a small boy with him, And he said to the boy, "Run and find the arrows I shoot." As the boy ran, he shot an arrow beyond him. When the boy came to the place where Jonathan's arrow had fallen, Jonathan called out after him, "Isn't the arrow beyond you?" Then he shouted, "Hurry! Go quickly! Don't stop!" The boy picked up the arrow and returned to his master. (The boy knew nothing of all this; only Jonathan and David knew.) Then Jonathan gave his weapons to the boy and said, "Go, carry them back to town." After the boy had gone, David got up from the south side [of the stone] and bowed down before Jonathan three times, with his face to the ground. Then they kissed each other and wept together--but David wept the most. Jonathan said to David, "Go in peace, for we have sworn friendship with each other in the name of HaShem, saying, 'HaShem is witness between you and me, and between your descendants and my descendants forever.'" Then David left, and Jonathan went back to the town.

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Great articles at:
http://www.betemunah.org/
Rosh Chodesh (new moon)

BTW, Ezel means departure.

147 posted on 05/27/2008 10:50:47 AM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (What would John Lennon do?)
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