The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

[Dr. Eckleburg]

If the RCC stopped its teachings on Mary with the thought that she was a great example of Christian charity and love, that would be wonderful.

Sadly, the RCC carries its teachings into an idolatrous worship/veneration/glorification/prayers to a woman who was exactly as fallen as you or me, and who was saved exactly the same way you and I are saved -- by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.

No bodily assumption into heaven of Mary. No sinless conception of Mary. No supernatural intact virginity of Mary after Christ's birth. No worship/veneration/glorification/prayers to anyone other than the Triune God alone.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Truth is always the motive.

[Petronski]

LOL

[Petronski]

No supernatural intact virginity of Mary after Christ's birth.

What is this creepy protestant obsession with Mary's hymen?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Bible-believing Christians know Christ alone.

If you feel compelled to add to Christ, that's your prerogative.

Again I encourage you to return to the Bible and read for yourself there is only one name under heaven by which men are saved, Jesus Christ.

[Petronski]

Bible-believing Christians know Christ alone.

Some do, but those Bible-believing Christians who are Catholics know all that His Church reveals to us.

[Petronski]

Again I encourage you to return to the Bible...

How does one "return to" what one has never left?

[mgist]

Sadly, the RCC carries its teachings into an idolatrous worship/veneration/glorification/prayers to a woman who was exactly as fallen as you or me, and who was saved exactly the same way you and I are saved -- by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.

That is your sad interpretation of Mary. NO WHERE, in Catholic teaching does it say we are saved through Mary. To insinuate otherwise is slander. The fact that we don't think of her like some meaningless Greek statue, doesn't mean that we place her above God. Obviously our love of God is a little too passionate for your tastes, that doesn't give you the right to spread calumnious lies against us.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

What is this creepy protestant obsession with Mary's hymen?

It's creepy, alright, but it's not coming from the Protestants, but from Rome. No one would have thought two seconds about it until Rome concocted the ridiculous, blasphemous error that somehow Mary's hymen was still intact after the birth of Christ.

What a God-awful pretense. What a denial of Christ's humanity. What an idolatrous, bogus pretension to foist off on the mother of Christ.

To base such anti-Scriptural nuttiness on a few words by Aquinas and the ravings of Pope Paul IV's "Cum quorundam" at the Council of Trent is ludicrous.

It's the RCC who is preoccupied with Mary's supposed intact virginity after the birth of Christ. I guess the RCC would have to make these idiotic claims for it to believe all the rest of the blasphemy that followed.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

By actually reading it.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

The words of the RCC catechism have been posted numerous times on this thread. Go back and read them. They are damnable lies.

No king but Christ. No redeemer but Christ. No sacrifice by Christ.

[Petronski]

Ooooh, anti-Catholic venom.

Matthew 7:16

[Petronski]

By actually reading it.

Never stopped. Can't return to what was never left.

[Petronski]

No sacrifice by Christ.

Wow!

Really?

[Petronski]

What’s an “RCC catechism?”

[Petronski]

They are damnable lies.

The false claims made over and over about the Catechism of the Catholic Church by Catholic-hating bigots?

YES, they are.

[Petronski]

Look at the very first paragraph of the CCC:

"FATHER, . . . this is eternal life, that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent."1 "God our Savior desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."2 "There is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved"3 - than the name of JESUS.

Not only a stirring rebuke of Cauvin's dark gospel of predestination, but also the direct statement: "There is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved"3 - than the name of JESUS.

[Mad Dawg]

Saint Sigmund, pray for us!

[Petronski]

St. Sigmund of Vienna?

[Mad Dawg]

Nope. There is some disagreement that they prove that some people are predestined to hell. That they exist, that they have meaning, we all agree. That they constitute a proof, on that there is some question.

A asks B for a glass of hot water.
B gives A a glass of cold water.
A asks B again for a glass of hot water.
B says, "You asked for water. I gave you water. You are making what must be an intentional error."

A and the onlookers fall on the floor laughing.