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The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: DungeonMaster
It's yet another way RC's disregard the scriptures.

It's a little hard to take the Scripture fetish seriously when it wasn't an issue for fifteen centuries.

6,042 posted on 06/16/2008 9:59:44 AM PDT by papertyger (What Would Jesus Do? ... Remember "freak out and turn over tables," is a valid option ;o)
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To: DungeonMaster; Joya
It's yet another way RC's disregard the scriptures. Any study of the bible will show the importance of God's name. Good heavens it's even one of the 10 commandments. So that importance of God's name is blasphemed in the way RCs give more and even loftier names to their idol Mary.

This goes beyond disregard. This is 1st degree blaspheme with malice afore thought.

INDEED.

Joya gave me a prophecy last night that went on at some repeated length exhorting Christians to not give notice to, honor to, . . . and other similar words--to spiritual leaders WHOM GOD WOULD ACTUALLY ANOINT IN MIRACULOUS WAYS--not only because it was offensive to HIM but because . . . how was it . . . it would be a kind of test . . . some even that God Himself would truly anoint at a point in time would later veer off and lead people astray.

That God wanted to insure that our devotion, OUR FOCUS, our honor was TOTALLY ON HIM--FOR OUR OWN SAFETY AS WELL AS IT BEING THE ONLY THING FITTING.

I immediately thought of all the hoopla and deference that a lot of TV preachers AND RC personages ROUTINELY 'COMMAND,' AND EXPECT.

Shocking.

6,044 posted on 06/16/2008 10:01:46 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: sandyeggo

Nice to see such a Jesus’ focused prayer,

for a change.


6,045 posted on 06/16/2008 10:02:42 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: DungeonMaster
This goes beyond disregard. This is 1st degree blaspheme with malice afore thought.

Hmm, gotta watch out for that "blaspheme." A lot of it goin' round.

Thank you to referring to "thought." It is something Catholics exercise from time to time.

Now to make a case, you may need to show not only that an act was committed but how the law applies to that act. If I snatch a baby out of a street, it may be kidnapping or it may be a heroic rescue.

With the possible exception of "Gentile Lady", I have seen nothing that is blasphemous in your list.

No wait, blasphemous and ludicrous are not synonyms, are they?)

Obviously I need to help of your reason, if any, to show me how these break any commandments.

And to save you trouble, allow me to point out that just saying something over and over again in tones of increasing horror is not an argument. A thesis needs more than repetition to be successfully demonstrated.

6,046 posted on 06/16/2008 10:02:58 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
And to save you trouble, allow me to point out that just saying something over and over again in tones of increasing horror is not an argument.

Yes it is.

YES IT IS.

YES IT IS!

6,047 posted on 06/16/2008 10:05:21 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: papertyger; Alex Murphy; alpha-8-25-02; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; Forest Keeper; ...

real Christians.

. . .

Trying to wrap my understanding around that . . . context and all . . .

Is there any other way to infer that that is anything other than

haughty?

Is that a new dogma replacing “Mary Meek and Mild?’


6,048 posted on 06/16/2008 10:05:39 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Is there any other way to infer that that is anything other than

haughty?

Yes: factual.

6,049 posted on 06/16/2008 10:12:05 AM PDT by papertyger (What Would Jesus Do? ... Remember "freak out and turn over tables," is a valid option ;o)
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To: MarkBsnr
calm and dispassionate

Ahhhhhhhh, must be the new enclycical's edicts propagating the new propaganda about the new

prescribed

most holy

most exclusive

Most reverential, most venerational, most adorational emotional attitude proper for use when facing officials, images, icons, statues, apparitions, . . .

most pristine from Little Pebble Peter's Pen [belatedly found under a fossilized towel in a newly discovered Roman bath--in Turkey somewhere]

obligatory for all the faithful

designed for the sake of leaving

thin skins milquey white and unruffled.

6,050 posted on 06/16/2008 10:13:02 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Mad Dawg

. . . only in the Harvard Lampoon edition.


6,051 posted on 06/16/2008 10:15:33 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: DungeonMaster

Prayers, certainly.


6,052 posted on 06/16/2008 10:18:50 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: 1000 silverlings
כִּי שָׁם שְׁאֵלוּנוּ שׁוֹבֵינוּ, דִּבְרֵי-שִׁיר-- וְתוֹלָלֵינוּ שִׂמְחָה

What have you to do with כִּנֹּרוֹתֵ?

6,053 posted on 06/16/2008 10:19:16 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Marysecretary
Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church [τους πρεσβυτερους της εκκλησιας]
[note he does NOT say any sanctified Tom, Dick, or Harriet but the elders of the church] [of course, this is the same guy who says that there shouldn't be many teachers among us, while some Protestants think each of them is a teacher, pretty much with the results of which James warns us],
and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord,; and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, [please note that it does NOT specify that he will be saved from his illness] and the Lord will raise him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.
So yeah, as a matter of fact, not only laying on of hands but also anointing by elders is practiced in the Catholic Church. Sometimes we have services devoted to the Sacrament of Healing. Before my foot surgery last year I was anointed.

I have seen miracles. They do not pass protestant muster because the Protestant canon for determining miracles is, "If it's reported by a Catholic it didn't happen."

Tra la. God is great and He heals.

6,055 posted on 06/16/2008 10:20:58 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Doesn’t take living in China long to get used to being called a barbarian.

I now consider it quite a complement.


6,056 posted on 06/16/2008 10:21:22 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Akin to my thinking . . .

I thought . . . must be part of David’s band.

How nice.

Thxx.


6,057 posted on 06/16/2008 10:22:08 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Mad Dawg
TO GOD

--ATTITUDE of the Heart--
--SPIRIT engaged in--
--FOCUS of the heart and mind--

Are super key

when

considering a word

or action.

6,058 posted on 06/16/2008 10:25:55 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Must be in the Apocrapha [sic]

My Bible does not have an Apocrypha, only the original 73 books.

6,059 posted on 06/16/2008 10:26:24 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: papertyger

Ahhhhh. . .

as in

factually haughty?


6,060 posted on 06/16/2008 10:26:44 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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