The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

[OLD REGGIE]

My understanding is that Trent accepted it because it was under attack. Is there a previous conciliar accepting of the agreed upon parts of the OT?

Well, it was under attack by the "Protestants" who were fighting what they believed were unscriptural passages in the "apocrypha" which were being used, among other things, to raise money thru indulgences. Until the Reformation "Apocrypha" hadn't really been an issue or had been canonized by an Ecumenical Council. The Reformation forced the issue and was the direct cause for the action of Trent.

I havn't done any work on the LXX.

I have done very little myself. It becomes apparent right up front that the entire story of the LXX is legend with no basis in fact. Further, the idea of "A" Septuagint is fantasy. No such animal exists. Apologists from both camps make arguments on both sides of the fence. Choose your poison.

The little work I have done on the NT leads me to believe that there are significant variations in texts, the most notorious being the endings of Mark and the "Woman Taken in Adultery", which at least one major text of John does not have. (from memory, I'm supposed to be doing something else now.)

It has long been my opinion that no such thing as a "perfect" Bible exists. I am satisfied; however, that each of the Bibles used by Catholics and Protestants is sufficiently correct.

2 Timothy 3:
[16] All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

[Mad Dawg]

The Bible is pretty clear on calling NO man Father but God.

I would have enjoyed being at your church yesterday for "What's his name's Day."

Call no man Master either.

Does this mean I have to send back my master's degree and stop calling male-type personnel "mister"?

I just have this persistent feeling that the normal Protestant, except for Quaker, interpretation of this rule is, "Anyone but Catholics can call a guy 'Father'." Gotta love them Quakers.

[1000 silverlings]

What have you to do with כִּנֹּרוֹתֵ

I'm having a little trouble with some of your Hebrew, but as to the violins, they're accompanying the opus

[Quix]

LOL

with the Appoplectica in the middle.

Is that the section that drives RC’s into so much

appoplexy that they begin to obsessively finger beads?

[Mad Dawg]

Yes it is.

YES IT IS.

YES IT IS!

OH. Right.

Sorry then.

[Petronski]

Thank you for sharing your sneering mockery of my faith.

[Quix]

Alas . . . at 61 . . . our Shaw and Shakespeare were mostly in Jr High. A little in High School. But they were great fun at the time. And Chaucer! Oh, Dear!

[maryz]

My Hebrew??? Actually, my Hebrew essays in school always got compliments from my teachers, but I posted a line from Psalms.

[Quix]

I highly respect authentic faith in authentic Christianity . . . such as many RC’s demonstrate . . . such as DarthVader;

Heresies, blasphemies, idolatries and seeming attitudes and expressions toward; in support of; in addoration of; in veneration of; in focus on; in applause toward

all such

shall likely continue to trigger satire and the like. Which is mild compared to what Jesus The Christ would say about such.

[MarkBsnr]

***Freepers are nothing like the average RCs that you meet.***

I’ve met one or two Catholics over my years. :)

***They don’t care enough about the bible to know that Marianism is not there. I probably have known 20 or 30 RCs over the last 20 years and none of them studies his bible.***

There are good Catholics and there are bad Catholics. Some are Creasters (Christmas and Easter only) and some really do imitate Christ. Many of the ones that I associate with are better Christians and have a greater knowledge of Scripture than I do.

[papertyger]

Ahhhhh. . . as in factually haughty?

Oh you are the clever one....

[OLD REGGIE]

The charge has been made and more than once. It is possilbe that you may have missed it. "Frequently" is a judgment word.

Please show two such charges by two different "non-Catholics" which will justify your charge of "frequent" claims by anyone that "... only people who go to the Catholic Church can be saved."

It is entirely possible I never participated in a thread where such a rediculous charge was made. I am confident that I, even in my feeble minded state, would have remembered it.

Lacking any proof from you I will be forced to conclude you are a victim of an overactive imagination.

[Quix]

Anyone

Purporting to

mind-read
heart-read

“hate” into a single word, phrase, sentence, paragraph of any of my posts

strikes me as bearing false witness.

Thankfully, My Lord Jesus The Christ knows the score in my heart and my mind.

[Petronski]

I highly respect authentic faith in authentic Christianity . . .

Matthew 7:16

[Quix]

No, no.

I’m quite the bungler.

Mercifully, The Lord God Almighty sends gifts liberally.

[Quix]

It’s encouraging that some RC’s know where that is in The Bible.

Maybe in a few more centuries some of them will begin to get the interpretation and application down a little better.

As I understand it . . . one of the fruits of truth . . . is freedom.

[Mad Dawg]

Even mens rea requires a substantive act. If i were to make little horns at you and think that that would make you sick, I would still be innocent of assault. (I'd be guilty of being a jerk, but, to judge by Congress, that's a good thing.)

In general, I think an idolatrous disposition or intention will pretty much lead to idolatry, but that kind of hig-falutin' spekkerlation does not clearly or necessarily attach to DM's list.P>And your suggested argument implies a kind of double bind. (Schizophrenigenic anyone?) The Church is to blame because people can take much of what she says and make it an occasion of idolatry, but she gets no credit when they don't. AND if she were to try to exercise more control over people's inner intention then we'd hear cries of "Inquisition" and "mind control" and the rest.

If you start with the presupposition that we are wrong, any facts will do.

It is no small matter to judge the inner disposition of people from a different culture from one's own, and yet Protestants eagerly hurl accusations at Catholics, assuming that if they are doing something unfamiliar their intentions must be corrupt.

Oh, and if someone calls a person a barbarian for a bad reason, that does not, in itself, imply that the person is not indeed a barbarian.

[Mad Dawg]

Can I get a dedication for Slash-and-Burn Evangelism?

I think you'll have to go to the Army War College for your dedication.