Posted on 07/29/2008 4:39:52 PM PDT by annalex
You just claimed invalid the baptism of about a billion people, and you have the gall to imply I’M arrogant?!?
Are you saying that a ‘good’ Muslim or Buddhist or whatever, can go to heaven without receiving Christ in his or her life because they are loving and kind? Maybe they don’t know the scriptures about Christ but they still have to know HIM, and the Bible is the source that teaches them about God and Christ in the first place. What you say is somewhat confusing...
The HS only writes His law on the Christian’s heart, not the heathen.
You sound as though you believe they will only be saved if they find the Catholic church. Heretical thinking. NO church can save anyone. It’s through Jesus Christ and His sacrifice on the cross. The Catholic Church had NOTHING, nada, zilch, to do with anyone’s salvation. Dear Lord!
How dare you belittle Christ like that!
A filthy lie borne of one's misguided rejection of free will.
Jean Cauvin strikes again.
Y’all almost make me a Calvinist. LOL.
Oh, really? What makes you think that the Catholic Church has it right???
If a billion people depended on baptism for their salvation, then they’re lost. Simple as that.
God gives everyone sufficient Grace to be saved or God is NOT love,man can freely reject this love.
The design of man has to be for the purpose of love or God's essence is not love.
The design of man also must include free will or man could not love God,thus, it would be God loving Himself through man
Creation of love must therefore APPLY to EVERYONE from the moment we became a thought to God.
I would say that the biggest mistake the reformed make is neglecting the fact that God is the first cause of all things.
If God does not give each and every one of us the opportunity to be saved than the first cause would be imperfect since the creation of any man without possibility of being saved would be a first cause.
We can only go to hell by sinning,thus it would mean that sin is included in the first cause of God in some human creation ,thus making God the author of sin and making evil part of God's essence. This just CANNOT be possible ,Dear Brother.
The following from Aquinas should make sense to you?
That in God there can be no Evil
ESSENTIAL being, and essential goodness, and all other things that bear the name of ‘essential,’ contain no admixture of any foreign element; although a thing that is good may contain something else besides being and goodness, for there is nothing to prevent the subject of one perfection being the subject also of another. Everything is contained within the bounds of its essential idea in such sort as to render it incapable of containing within itself any foreign element. But God is goodness, not merely good. There cannot therefore be in Him anything that is not goodness, and so evil cannot be in Him at all.
3. As God is His own being, nothing can be said of God that signifies participation. If therefore evil could be predicated of Him, the predication would not signify participation, but essence. Now evil cannot be predicated of any being so as to be the essence of any: for to an essentially evil thing there would be wanting being, since being is good.* There cannot be any extraneous admixture in evil, as such, any more than in goodness. Evil therefore cannot be predicated of God.
5. A thing is perfect in so far as it is in actuality: therefore it will be imperfect inasmuch as it is failing in actuality. Evil therefore is either a privation, or includes a privation, or is nothing. But the subject of privation is potentiality; and that cannot be in God: therefore neither can evil.
This truth also Holy Scripture confirms, saying: God is light, and there is no darkness in Him, (I John i, 5) Far from God impiety, and iniquity from the Almighty (Job xxxiv, 10).
Does this mean that you believe that every non Christian baby is a heathen and will neve have the ability to love?
Perhaps you should think deeper,dear sister?
People can love in the natural. It’s an emotion all of us have and it doesn’t mean the HS put it there. He writes his law on Christian hearts. The HS only inhabits Christians when we ask the Lord Jesus to come into our hearts to save us from eternal damnation. The heathen haven’t done that, yet. Hitler loved Eva Braun. He was a heathen when he died and faces eternal damnation. That love did him no good for the HS wasn’t in it. And I’ve thought deeply enough about these things, my brother in Christ.
All I can say is WOW!
Do they not understand that ALL good comes from God? All love?
“People can love in the natural. It’s an emotion all of us have and it doesn’t mean the HS put it there.”
What you are saying is that natural law is not Divine.
Lots of platitudes, but not a lot of scripture.
In fact, no scripture.
Thanks for the platitudes.
How do you know?
It could not have been love if hitler had sexual relations with her since they were not married.
I think you don't understand what true love is.
Christ tells me so.
THAT is not what I said.
What is it with the anti-Catholic tendency to misunderstand language?
It seems you must have overlooked this part of the post,Dear Brother.
Holy Scripture confirms, saying: God is light, and there is no darkness in Him, (I John i, 5) Far from God impiety, and iniquity from the Almighty (Job xxxiv, 10).
If an interpretation of scripture DOES NOT support God as a loving God than you're misinterpreting the scripture
Let me say this again: I DID NOT SAY THAT.
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