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Evangelicals: Change of Heart toward Catholics
The Black Cordelias ^ | July 28, 2008 | The Black Cordelias

Posted on 07/29/2008 4:39:52 PM PDT by annalex

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To: OpusatFR

I’m saying people can love, hate, whatever, without God in their lives. It’s emotions that we’ve been given by God to use as we wish. Just because He made love doesn’t mean that only Christians CAN love. Get it?


1,101 posted on 08/10/2008 6:55:13 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary
And how do YOU know that, mind reader?

He said "I think..."

Mostly, you're just embarrassing yourself now.

1,102 posted on 08/10/2008 6:56:22 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Marysecretary

Glad you agree again with the Catholic Church.


1,103 posted on 08/10/2008 6:58:22 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Marysecretary
Oh, I don’t. And how do YOU know that, mind reader? Do you know me? Do you know my heart? Do you know the people I have truly loved (and even forgiven for the pain they’ve cost me?). NO, you do not. How do you even know that Hitler DIDN’T love Eva Braun? Did you know him?

When you decided to use hitler as an example of love it's very telling.

I'll keep you in prayer.

1,104 posted on 08/10/2008 6:59:33 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: stfassisi
You seem to think that God created them for Hell

If they are going to go to hell and if God is omniscient, then God created them knowing full well that he was going to send them to hell. So no matter how you slice it, they were destined for hell before they were created.

God did not have to create those he knew he was going to send to hell, but he did.

thus God is a partner of the devil and zeus like

God is the one who sends people to hell, not the devil.

Tell me, did God create the devil knowing that he would turn out the way he did?

1,105 posted on 08/10/2008 7:27:02 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: stfassisi

You don’t think people who have sexual relations before marriage can’t really love? Hmmm. I agree they shouldn’t be having sex before marriage but not really love? That’s a bit preposterous.


1,106 posted on 08/10/2008 7:28:39 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: P-Marlowe
If they are going to go to hell and if God is omniscient, then God created them knowing full well that he was going to send them to hell. So no matter how you slice it, they were destined for hell before they were created.

Not the case at all. Foreknowledge is not foreordination.

Conflating the two is perhaps the fundamental flaw in the error of double predestination.

1,107 posted on 08/10/2008 7:29:56 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: P-Marlowe
God is the one who sends people to hell, not the devil.

The work of the devil leads them to use their free will poorly. The justice of God sends them to hell for it.

1,108 posted on 08/10/2008 7:31:37 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Petronski

Yes, I know I did. What’s the problem?


1,109 posted on 08/10/2008 7:33:28 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Petronski

Nor apparently did you.


1,110 posted on 08/10/2008 7:33:57 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Petronski; Religion Moderator

I told you not to post to me any more.


1,111 posted on 08/10/2008 7:34:11 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Petronski; Religion Moderator

I told you not to post to me anymore.


1,112 posted on 08/10/2008 7:34:58 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Petronski

You are something else, Petronski. Please don’t bother posting to me any longer. You just live to insult people.


1,113 posted on 08/10/2008 7:35:07 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary
What’s the problem?

You are changing the subject. The point was your arrogance in attempting to void the baptisms of about a billion people.

1,114 posted on 08/10/2008 7:35:45 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: stfassisi

I used him because he is the epitome of evil. But even he could love someone. Even the heathen love. Don’t bother praying for me with your attitude. It will never be answered.


1,115 posted on 08/10/2008 7:36:39 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary
You just live to insult people.

Please do not attempt to read my mind or make this personal. It is not about me. It is about the validity of infant baptism.

Nothing YOU can say can revoke the valid Trinitarian Baptisms of about a billion people. They are all quite valid in the eyes of God and His Church--the Catholic Church.

1,116 posted on 08/10/2008 7:38:00 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Marysecretary

Now you seem to claim his prayers will never be answered.

And yet you lectured me on arrogance?!?


1,117 posted on 08/10/2008 7:38:50 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Petronski; Religion Moderator

I’m telling him not to bother praying for me with his attitude about me because those will never be answered. Please do not post to me any longer.


1,118 posted on 08/10/2008 7:44:27 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary

When you post to an open thread, you can expect replies from all directions.

When you pretend to know whose prayers will not be answered, you should expect derisive replies.


1,119 posted on 08/10/2008 7:48:52 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: P-Marlowe

It is an open thread.

If you wish that your statements not receive replies, I recommend private messages or caucus threads.


1,120 posted on 08/10/2008 7:50:40 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Petronski

Good God Almighty!

“MOM! Tell Billy to quit looking at me! He’s looking at me, Mom!”

Honestly. Some of these people will demand that you not post to them, and then sooner or later, they’ll post to you, in spite of what they said.

Is the RF the place where people come to act out their pathology? Sometimes I wonder.


1,121 posted on 08/10/2008 7:55:12 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Petronski; Religion Moderator
I told you not to post to me anymore!
1,122 posted on 08/10/2008 7:56:18 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Try not reading it.


1,123 posted on 08/10/2008 7:57:54 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: Judith Anne
Imagine claiming the moral high ground while also claiming this:

You just live to insult people.

1,124 posted on 08/10/2008 7:58:20 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: P-Marlowe
I know!
1,125 posted on 08/10/2008 7:58:56 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: P-Marlowe
If they are going to go to hell and if God is omniscient, then God created them knowing full well that he was going to send them to hell. So no matter how you slice it, they were destined for hell before they were created.

You make the mistake of putting God within time and thus cannot comprehend that everything is NOW with God eternally.

The creation of us all is one NOW to God and cannot change from the eternal love created by Him freely.He created us out of love in one NOW to freely Choose Him and Freely love Him or reject Him

Your God is an evil zeus who lives within the time of which the human mind and makes sacrifice to the devil.

1,126 posted on 08/10/2008 7:58:59 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: P-Marlowe

Are you making this personal?


1,128 posted on 08/10/2008 8:06:44 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Marysecretary
Don’t bother praying for me with your attitude. It will never be answered.

You have no choice in who I decide to pray for and to decide for God what prayers are answered.

1,129 posted on 08/10/2008 8:06:47 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: stfassisi

Have your own way. I really don’t care.


1,130 posted on 08/10/2008 8:07:52 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: P-Marlowe

No offense but you’re being a whiny baby.


1,131 posted on 08/10/2008 8:08:42 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: Petronski; Religion Moderator

Please do not post to me again.


1,132 posted on 08/10/2008 8:08:42 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary

Please do not bring thin skin to open threads. According to guidelines, it makes you the disruptor.


1,133 posted on 08/10/2008 8:10:13 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Petronski

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1,134 posted on 08/10/2008 8:11:08 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: P-Marlowe
Correction

“”Your God is an evil zeus who lives within the time of which the human mind and makes sacrifice to the devil.””

Should read

Your God is an evil zeus who lives within the time of the comprehension of human mind and makes sacrifice to the devil.

1,135 posted on 08/10/2008 8:11:09 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: P-Marlowe
I told you not to post to me anymore!

Can I post to you? I'm very nice in person and have 2 cats.

1,136 posted on 08/10/2008 8:11:56 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Hacksaw

I have a neurotic miniature poodle named Scoobie and a feral tomcat named Aretha.

Just, you know, for the record.


1,137 posted on 08/10/2008 8:14:12 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Marysecretary
Have your own way. I really don’t care

I'm sorry your having a difficult day ,dear sister.

Perhaps you should take a break and spend more time in prayer ?

1,138 posted on 08/10/2008 8:15:00 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: Judith Anne
“MOM! Tell Billy to quit looking at me! He’s looking at me, Mom!”

LOL

That sounds about right.

Complaints from the two unfortunate kids who have to sit in that weird third seat in the back of the station wagon that faces the wrong way.

1,139 posted on 08/10/2008 8:16:28 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Petronski

I have a mastiff and a minpin. They are beautiful, and well bred. I think their pedigrees are longer than my own....:D

Just sayin.


1,140 posted on 08/10/2008 8:17:44 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Alex Murphy

That is an absurd claim, which reveals an inability to understand numbers. It is based on comparing a 2007 study that showed 64 million Catholics with the 2008 Pew study that supposedly showed 54 million. However, the Pew study did NOT show 54 million Catholics. It showed that 24% of Americans are Catholic. Since the US population is about 306 million, that translates into about 74 million Catholics. The 54 million figure is presumably the number of ADULT Catholics. The Pew study itself says explicitly that the percentage of the US population that is Catholic has remained constant over recent decades -— which is in fact the case, as many studies have shown. The Pew study does not say that the Catholic population has declined -— it explicitly says otherwise. They do say that over the last several decades many Catholics have left the Church. But they also say that this has been offset by a combination of higher birthrate, immigration, and conversions to Catholicism, so that the Catholic percentage of the population has remained steady for the last 40 years. The Protestant percentage of population, on the other hand has shrunk dramatically.

As far as why the Southern Baptists have started to decline, the answer is probably pretty simple: low birthrate. Everyone knows that the “mainline” Protestant denominations have declined drastically in large part because of extremely low birthrates. What is less well-known is that even most “evangelical” groups have low birthrates -— and this includes the Southern Baptists, who are slightly older on average that the US population. According to the Pew study -— readily available online -—the great majority of Protestant groups have low birthrates. The high-birthrate exceptions are the Pentecostals, the non-denominational evangelicals, and black Protestants. The Catholics have pretty healthy birthrates, even leaving out the hispanics. The Catholic Church in the US continues to be one of the few “denominations” with steady growth year after year.


1,141 posted on 12/23/2008 3:13:29 PM PST by smpb (smb)
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