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To: Texas Songwriter

Friend, I would urge that you consider something about your premise: that God’s highest aim may not be in saving all men, but glorifying His name - the elect, in saving them through Christ, and the reprobate, in condemning them for their sins. Thus, who is elect and who is not is none of our business. It is a practical doctrine of comfort for the believer. Think of Bunyan’s Christian, and the many times he needed encouragement on his long journey to the New Jerusalem. Are there times you need encouragement? This beautiful doctrine - how God foreknew and foreloved you in Christ from eternity - provides what your weary soul needs.


54 posted on 08/21/2008 7:34:30 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
Thank you. Yes, God forknows everything that will come to be. God does love me, a sinner, who, while I was yet in my sin, He loved me, and gave Himself for me. God loves every person. He does not love every persons ways.

My premise is not that the highest aim is to save all men, but it is clearly written that it is not the will of God that any should perish. He loved them so much that He became a man and took on my and your sins that we might be reconciled to Him,....not because of who we are, but because of who He is...that God is Love. God is a consuming fire taking vengence on them that know not God. It is not the will of God that some not know Him, but he cannot dispense Mercy at the expence of His Justice. He has provided the only Way for a world of sinners to be reconciled to Him. If they refuse Him they have refused life. But they are not forced to reject as Calvin says, buy they exercise their own volition to reject Him.

You say the elect have no buisness in trying to bring the reprobate to God, yet we are told to go to the highways and hedges and compel them to come to Him. Preach the Word to every creature. These admonitions come from the very God you say we are to believe 'enjoy', for 'His Good Pleasure' burning people in eternal torment, For His Good Pleasure....that is what Calvin taught. That is not the God of the Bible. God takes no pleasure in the punishment of the wicked. I am sure it breaks His heart when a sinner rejects Life eternal for Hell.

Calvinism and his followers have made God out to be the primary and responsible cause of all misery on this planet. While it is difficult (if not impossible) for some Calvinists to admit this (especially to a non-calvinist) Calvin and Calvinism points a very slanderous finger at God. To say that it is "none of our buisness, just Gods' buisness", is irresponsible. You cannot have unconditional election without unconditional reprobation any more than you can have one side of a coin without the other. John Calvin, to his credit, did make this absolutely clear. 1 Tim.2:3-4 says, "God our Savioir desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."

In the final analysis one has to make a choice. They must choose either John 3"16, "For God so love the world that he gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life", or they believe John Calvin. Me......I'll take the clear, unadulterated teachings of Jesus Christ of Nazareth every, single time.

55 posted on 08/21/2008 7:58:53 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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