Posted on 01/27/2009 6:59:07 AM PST by betty boop
Edited on 01/27/2009 7:16:52 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
This article however is focused on information theory as applied to molecular biology with respect to the autopoiesis model.
To put it another way, it deals with information (successful communication) in nature as the necessary element for increased complexity - and more startling than that, that the message being communicated anticipates that which has not yet occurred.
Such a temporal non-locality obviously points to an intelligent cause rather than an undirected process.
Who’s Szostak?
Why are you writing on the subject of abiogenesis if you aren’t familiar with the most important researchers?
I’m not being my normal self today. Just once I want some one to step up and ask the environmentalist if they so much believe in Darwin’s theory why they stand in the way of evolution.
According to Darwin’s theory we must strive to protect ourselves at the cost of other species.
By the Bible we are tasked with taking care of the environment.
Anyone see a problem with their view?
Theories about how things work do not prescribe values.
Serious work is being conducted as we read today on the next generation of computer processors, single cell biological transistors that operate on chemistry, not electricity, so to speak. I find that amazing.
I am thankful great minds are working on the basis of platform for programming (intelligent design) realizing that once such computing power is eventually released (if we don't destroy each other first - humans) it will not so easily be corrupted by the already corrupted.
Serious 5th dimensional thinking being applied at the foundation of the research now and looking at Darwin and his evolution theory slapped the casually convenient-minded a couple centuries backwards.
Point: Einstein, Oppenheimer, a few others and the crew of the Enola Gay fully understood the concept of the threat of misused power once that trigger employed over human targets.
In this case they do. According to his theory a species is not only entitled but demanded to do anything in their power for further survival. No matter the fall out to other species. Other wise his whole theory falls apart once you limit a species to moral considerations for other species. For at that point you no longer have survival of the fittest but of the willing. Which throws out the theory.
It’s only Shannon Theory, not Shannon Law
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"If DNA cannot be used to determine kinship, there are a lot of court decisions that need to be reversed."
Thank you for so clearly illustrating the depth of abject self-imposed ignorance that pervades (nay, characterizes) the so-called "thinking" of your anti-science ilk!
Until you at least learn to make such rudimentary discrimination, please cease from embarrassing the rest of us believers with your knee-jerk displays of refusal to learn...
Holding your breath til you trun blue does not make your assertion true.
Theories about how things work are not prescriptive.
At best (or worst) they enable us to do things we would not be able to do without them.
But humans were causing extinctions long before Darwin, and will continue doing so.
I advocated for a class action procedure for criminal law similar to civil procedutre due to the travesty of justice the OJ Simpson case presented. If in fact, DNA testing was not conclusive, then that standard should not have been applied to the thousands of cases that preceded OJ’s. The difference was OJ’s $15 million spent upon high powered technical arguments that overwhelmed the LA DA’s office. A class action would pool the best resources of prosecutors and defenses to achieve the most accurate results for all concerned. I see that being justice. What happened in OJ’s case was not justice. He should have been found guilty or it should have placed all the other cases in question.
I know what “inter” means. It doesn’t change my post.
All proteins have neither DNA nor RNA, that is why they are called “proteins” they are made up of a chain of amino acids coded for by DNA in the form of a messenger RNA. The Prion protein has just as much “DNA” and “RNA” as any other gene product, in that a prion protein is coded for by a DNA gene using an RNA intermediary.
The “prion problem” is that they are misfolded, and can apparently, when ingested, make native proteins misfold as well.
When you say “In the Shannon model, prions would be incoherent in the channel because they have no discernible message” that would also be true of any protein, or any misfolded protein if you assume the “message” of any functional protein is that it is able to perform its function.
In other words the very first thing I read was a mess that made no sense to anybody who understand the science of molecular biology; but no worries, I don't think the target audience either desires or possesses such knowledge.
“Prions — typified as non-autonomous protein noise/mutation contributing to successful/failed communication (protein crystallization). Prions are protein molecules that have neither DNA nor RNA. Currently, prions are the suspected cause of bovine spongiform encephalopathy — Mad Cow Disease. In the Shannon model, prions would be incoherent in the channel because they have no discernible message; that is, neither DNA nor RNA. Thus the prion would lead to channel or decoding malfunctions.”
That's consistent with my post, but My argument is that the reasoning behind DNA testing to determine kinship works at all levels.
An analogy -- not the best, but I haven't had my coffee yet -- would be the integration of the effects of gravity by Newton, whereby he linked the force that causes things to fall with the force that keeps planets in orbit.
For example, IBM just recently broke the petaflop speed barrier (one thousand trillion calculations per second) and is now targeting the exaflop (one million trillion calculations per second). This remarkable achievement comes at the expense of more than 12,960 Cell processors – and of course, the attendant special needs for cooling.
The human brain, on the other hand, runs somewhere around 100 petaflops.
OK so to you it is humans. Care to explain how most species ever to live on Earth went extinct before the species Homo ever existed.
I never suggested anything contrary to this. I merely point out that theories of how things work are descriptive, not prescriptive.
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