Posted on 01/27/2009 6:59:07 AM PST by betty boop
Edited on 01/27/2009 7:16:52 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Yes, I see that, too. Bring on Paul J. Wesson's Five Dimensional Relativity and Two Times!
Thank you so much for your kind words of support, dearest sister in Christ — and for your excellent essay/post!
Excellent observation, metmom!
[[Seems to me that things would be rather dull if every event could be predicted.]]
Which is why I beleive Christ had ot become man to experience our limitted viewpoints (As well as agreeign to be our propitiation) so that we could not say that God doesn’t understand how we feel. (I think that is osmewhere in the bible- or somethign to that affect)
Brings to mind Time Travel... say... if only in your own (earthly) life.. would be an interesting study.. To see many of the "random" events that happened to you.. might not end up being quite so random.. But precise events guided and guarded by the Holy Spirit or even a "guardian angel" or both.. And that many/most events in your life were precipitated by things your forebears did or didn't do.. i.e. like being born in China or the United States.. or other ugh!.. things/choice's made..
And the choise's made by you or not made by you guaranteed certain outcomes.. and those choise's locked in certain outcomes.. Same could be true of things that happened to your race, your family, your marriage, your children, your job(s), your diet, your qualia, your birth/conception/up bringing, your home life, your mistakes..
Time Travel of your life (at some future time) could be a study in blessing or curse determined by your own choise's.. chosing generational cycles or breaking those cycles.. My guardian angel (if I have one) must surely have a challenging job.. I should be dead (right now) many times over... Could be I have a very good angel.. that knows me better than I know myself..
Could be that NO human life is dull if all were known about that life.. All the intriques, dramas, people, and events in that life.. Its possible that not much is random in a human life.. but definite reasons for all the events.. Even reasons you are born in a particular situation, tribe or state..
If Adam and Eve were a reality.. How did one get born in a remote Amazonian tribe in South America?.. Could be a gripping story that journey..
Could be, dear hosepipe, could be. Clearly that's the sense I have, from my own direct experience.
Naw. They're not doing that. There are some "food fights" in these pages worthy of some of the FReeper evo/crevo threads I've been privileged to witness over the years! LOLOL!!!
To understand this book — and what this diverse body of scientists is doing in "dialoguing" with one another — it helps to understand its pre-publication history, some of the details of which are known to me because my friend Dr. Grandpierre wrote Chapter 28: "Fundamental Complexity Measures of Life," and kept me posted on the work's progress.
Divine Action and Natural Selection is a collection of 45 articles written by eminent scientists who, at bottom, are tasked to address the question of whether faith and reason, science and religion, can be reconciled, or if not, why not. Darwinian evolution vs. Intelligent Design (seen by many of the contributors as "creationism") is the lens through which many of the participants have envisioned their individual contributions.
Anyhoot, evidently this was the original plan for the book, as organized by its editor, Joseph Seckback, a biologist specializing in the fields of enigmatic microorganisms and life in extreme environments at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. About a year ago, Seckback brought on Richard Gordon, professor of radiology, University of Manitoba, as co-editor. Gordon came with two interesting proposals for "improving" the project. The first was to retitle the book. But after much angst, it was decided to retain Seckback's original title, which is what made it to press. [Gordon's proposed title was: "So God Did It, Eh???"]
The second proposal was sheer genius, however (IMHO): Gordon proposed that there be "peer reviews" appended to each article. That way, "opposing views" could be presented timely.
This second proposal was implemented, to the glory of the book. Oftentimes, the "peer review" would light off a dialogue between the author and the reviewer. And though all disputants were held accountable to the book project's main rule — that everybody be nice to one other, respectful, courteous, civil, polite, etc. — this was precisely where all the truly glorious "food fights" took place. :^)
Especially if the Turks were involved. This is truly an international work, involving eminent scientists (including lotsa physicists!) from America, Israel, Europe, and the Near East. The "Turkish creationist elaboration" drew particularly harsh criticism from certain (but not all) American and Israeli Darwinists, religious and atheist alike.
It turns out that one of the most thorough elaborations of creationist theory ever (read: explicitly anti-Darwinian) has been worked out by the Turkish academy; moreover, this elaboration of the origin and evolution of the world of nature has effectively been "blessed" as authentic Islamic doctrine in recent times. Yet to the scientists who object to it, it is simply "not science."
But this isn't the only instance of "cultural difference" that can be found in this marvelous book....
Anyhoot, it's amazing what you can learn from listening to the disputes among eminent working scientists! When I read this work, I feel like a fly on the locker-room wall, privileged to hear the most serious conversations emanating from the inner sanctum of the highest precincts of modern-day science.
May God ever bless each and every one of those 45 contributors and their critics!
Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops. - Luke 12:2-3
What an amazing collection it must be.
yup that’s the one- thanks- knew it said osmehtign liek that :)
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