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A Bad Year for the Neocons (Catholics) Who is More Catholic than the Pope?
The Remnant ^ | February 17, 2009 | Brian Mershon

Posted on 02/17/2009 7:00:22 AM PST by Mershon

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1 posted on 02/17/2009 7:00:23 AM PST by Mershon
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God Bless our Troops
2 posted on 02/17/2009 7:01:34 AM PST by philly-d-kidder (May God Bless America and ALL Freepers!)
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

PING!


3 posted on 02/17/2009 7:07:58 AM PST by Mershon
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Lamenting the spread of the Traditional Latin Mass to their own diocesan parishes since the Pope issued Summorum Pontificum July 7, 2007

The problem here is that very few priests remain that know how to say a mass in Latin. It is not taught in the seminaries and the older priests are dying off.

4 posted on 02/17/2009 7:14:44 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli now reads "Oil the gun..eat the cannolis.")
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To: Don Corleone
You're absolutely wrong about that.

The new religious orders that are involved exclusively with the Tridentine Mass (the Fraternity of St. Peter, the Institute of Christ the King, etc.) are dominated by young priests -- and their seminaries are filled with young men with priestly vocations.

It's the "Baby Boomer" priests who never learned to say the Mass in Latin . . . and THEY are now the ones who are getting old, retiring, and passing on.

5 posted on 02/17/2009 7:18:15 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Don Corleone

It is being increasingly taught in seminaries and there are special sessions offered all over the country to help priests learn the old Mass.

A priest who know no Latin can learn the old Mass in a year with hard work.


6 posted on 02/17/2009 7:19:06 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


7 posted on 02/17/2009 7:19:21 AM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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No, thanks ... I've never seen anything useful from any author who describes those with whom he disagrees as "neocons" ...

This screed is no exception.

8 posted on 02/17/2009 7:28:10 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: vladimir998

I’ve seen that too — there are online Latin Mass for Priests courses, it’s taught at the seminaries, there are old (Irish) priests (at our parish, anyway) who know it, and we have a feisty priest, young, who presides over the Latin Mass currently here in Los Angeles.


9 posted on 02/17/2009 7:30:01 AM PST by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: Mershon

How is making peace with the SSPX anti-neoconservative?


10 posted on 02/17/2009 7:34:57 AM PST by dangus
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To: ArrogantBustard

I knew this liberal turd who called me a neocon a number of times. I finally asked him just what a neocon was... he could not answer. I am a Reagan conservative, so put that up your neo.


11 posted on 02/17/2009 7:37:54 AM PST by coon2000
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I am rather puzzled by the application of the “Neocon” label to what seems to be a liberal Catholic. I would think that it would mean “more conservative” than typically conservative, who are in fact “moderates” that want to abide, not change.

Were I to apply the label of “Neocon” to a Catholic group, I would think their agenda would include such things as a “Counter-Reformation” against liberal heterodoxy and pagan heresy in the Americas. Even so far as to call on the Vatican to create an instructional mission, for several religious orders to observe and correct such error where found in each diocese, under the authority of the Holy Office.


12 posted on 02/17/2009 7:38:14 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Don Corleone

>>The problem here is that very few priests remain that know how to say a mass in Latin. It is not taught in the seminaries and the older priests are dying off. <<

My pastor learned in three weeks. Now we have a TLM.


13 posted on 02/17/2009 8:18:20 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: ArrogantBustard

It is very common to describe Wiegel, Novak and late Neuhaus as neo-conservatives. Are you objecting to the shortened form or to the label?


14 posted on 02/17/2009 8:28:56 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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I realize that it is very common. Lots of things are common.

I don't find the label particularly useful ... and I generally find that those who insist on using it have very little that is useful to say.

15 posted on 02/17/2009 8:37:41 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Cranmer was the first neocon.


16 posted on 02/17/2009 10:22:55 AM PST by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Alberta's Child; Don Corleone

A couple of weeks ago I assisted at a workshop for permanent deacons interested in the Extraordinary Form. I’ve spent the past several months working with a couple of Jesuits learning and becoming proficient in the EF. This past Sunday one of those Jesuits celebrated his first Solemn Mass in the EF.

The younger men have a hunger for authenticity and mystery and commitment, which the NO Mass cannot supply.


17 posted on 02/17/2009 10:28:22 AM PST by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: bboop

An FSSP priest in my diocese is offering Latin classes on Monday nights. I would go, but can’t make it at that time.


18 posted on 02/17/2009 10:34:07 AM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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ping


19 posted on 02/17/2009 11:35:49 AM PST by Mershon
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
The term "neocon" is used because many of the items referred to in this article have appeared in George Weigel's various political and "religious" writings. Weigel serves on the editorial board of First Things magazine with Midge Decter, wife of the original "neo-con" Norman Podhoretz (she may have actually been a co-founder of the magazine).

I use quotes around the word "religious" above because First Things is notoriously non-religious in many respects . . . at least in terms of its watered-down approach to religious subjects.

20 posted on 02/17/2009 2:11:48 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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