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To: topcat54
Futurists assert there is “little doubt” as to the identity of the one hundred and forty four thousand because they all agree among themselves.

No, there is not 'little' doubt...There is NO doubt...

The passage says 144,000 of all the tribes of the children of Israel...Therefore, it is 'tribes of the children of Israel'...

You don't have to interpret it; all you have to do is read...

You don't have to understand it; all you have to do is believe...

307 posted on 03/05/2009 10:11:47 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool; raynearhood; Lee N. Field
The passage says 144,000 of all the tribes of the children of Israel...Therefore, it is 'tribes of the children of Israel'...

What about the tribe of Dan? And why is Manasseh mentioned twice and Ephraim not mentioned at all?

Simplistic assertions such as yours are one reason why futurists don’t get the book of Revelation. Ignoring the symbols drawn largely from the old covenant prophets is the other. Having a Israel-centric rather than Christocentric view of the Bible and the world also makes things difficult for you.

310 posted on 03/05/2009 10:22:02 AM PST by topcat54
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To: Iscool
No, there is not 'little' doubt...There is NO doubt...

The passage says 144,000 of all the tribes of the children of Israel...Therefore, it is 'tribes of the children of Israel'...

You don't have to interpret it; all you have to do is read...

You don't have to understand it; all you have to do is believe...

OF A CLEAR AND PRESENT PERCEPTIVENESS THOU HAS TICKLED GOSPEL TRUTH OUT OF THINE KEYBOARD!

HOWEVER

There is this bit of a matter of

ASSUMING

that
REPLACEMENTARIANS

CAN

READ!

WHICH, given their wholesale mangling of Scripture and shredding it all over the trash dump . . . I fail to find significant evidence that they can read, at all!

However, you may have hit upon a key clue to their terminal malady. They REFUSE TO BELIEVE THE BIBLE. THEY REFUSE TO BELIEVE WHAT GOD SAID. THEY REFUSE TO BELIEVE GOD. So, yet again, we are forced to conclude, their hideousness about Israel is WILLFUL BLINDNESS.

319 posted on 03/05/2009 11:09:45 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Iscool
No, there is not 'little' doubt...There is NO doubt...

No, you have no doubt. Not the same thing.

335 posted on 03/05/2009 12:28:05 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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