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To: fr_freak
Trust me...no one is hoping for a collapse of any church here. We need all the help we can get. I'm just saying a different approach is in order. Why don't some people write to the Pope and have the word Catholic removed from ND and start a new Catholic University?

Radical? Yes, but I beleive something radical is called for.

81 posted on 04/04/2009 9:36:06 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Earthdweller; fr_freak
OK...I'll answer my own question. "Why don't some people write to the Pope and have the word Catholic removed from ND and start a new Catholic University?"

I can hear it now...ND is a tradition..handed down from such and such century...blah blah blah. Yep, I know all about it.

My grandparents, great grandparents and so on and so forth all the way back to Holy Island in Ireland could give you the answer to that one.

You really have no real say. My grandparents were faithful Catholics until the day they died and they never had a say in anything that happened in their own church.

All we ever got from the Pope for centuries of devotion was a signed picture acknowledgement for a fiftieth wedding anniversary like he was some far away untouchable celebrity like Elvis.

Yep...I know.

84 posted on 04/04/2009 10:01:57 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Earthdweller

Ah, as far as ND, we don’t like Obama giving the commencement address or receiving an honorary degree. I made my opinion kmown, but I’m not an Alumni or whatever. I also contacted St. Joe’s, and I’m an alum of the grad school. It was liberal leaning back when I attended in the late 80s early 90s. I imagine it’s more so now.

However, it’s the University of Notre Dame. And, St. Joseph’s University. No “Catholic” word in the titles. It’s assumed because they were Catholic universities at one time. Not the case now. Even with Boston College...but to their credit, they made a mistake and corrected it almost immediately. As for Notre Dame, the Board of Trustees isn’t the Catholic Church. Not sure about St. Joe’s. But I’ve seen the same thing happening with some of our Cathoic high schools. No longer a part of the Diocese, run by the alumni, etc. and the teachings of the Catholic Church are forgotten.

The Pope can say something, but if I recall correctly, he has no say over Notre Dame. But, I ber if he did say something it would matter.

All I know is that if I had a kid there now, and she was graduating, and I had to sit through that Commencement Address, I’d be pissed off and furious I spent all that money.

This will be interesting to follow (and maybe depressing, too).


126 posted on 04/05/2009 2:03:10 AM PDT by Twink
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