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Obama cites influence of Cardinal Bernardin, prepares to meet pope
Catholic Review ^ | July 2, 2009 | Patricia Zapor

Posted on 07/02/2009 1:20:51 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Husker

My prediction is that the Pope will not allow a picture imitating what he did with Pelosi.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see.


21 posted on 07/02/2009 6:28:38 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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22 posted on 07/02/2009 6:30:27 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“social justice”

The concept of “social justice” is another of Satan’s inventions.


23 posted on 07/02/2009 6:39:00 PM PDT by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: Husker

“If he does, then the left-wing moonbats will crap themselves.”

That visual gives me a chuckle. Running around in circles, squawking, and...


24 posted on 07/02/2009 6:44:16 PM PDT by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: dsc

You could not be more right.


25 posted on 07/02/2009 8:22:14 PM PDT by dominic flandry
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To: NYer

The fact that 1/3 of the bishops spoke out about ND has these shmoes scared stiff. They thought they had the bishops and Church in the the bag, 1/3 of them is dangerous stuff for the baby butcherists.

Freegards


26 posted on 07/02/2009 10:05:43 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: NYer

I wish once, just once, when sinful people meet with the Pope, they’d touch him and start to sizzle, like flicking holy water on a vampire.


27 posted on 07/03/2009 4:34:07 AM PDT by Puddleglum (http://www.phawkins.com)
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To: Northern Yankee

To my knowledge, he made only one statement where he lamented the pro-abortion use of the “seamless garment” theory, and that was basically in an attempt to defend it as it came under increasingly critical analysis.

Bernardin was one of the very earliest but at the same time most subtle of the AmChurch bishops; subtle probably precisely because he was early, and it was necessary to attain through sophistry what he could not do through a direct attack. I think he had a massively negative impact on the Church in the US, but because he was generally rather diplomatic about it and spent a lot of time unctuously presenting himself as the “great unifier,” he was much harder to combat.


28 posted on 07/03/2009 5:19:40 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
You could be right.

I have heard several priests on Relevant Radio really defend the Seamless garment saying it was used in the way Bernardin did not intend.

Anyway we keep fighting the good fight. Thankfully we have some wonderful priests out there, and Bishops like Timothy Dolan, that are really having an impact on the faithful.

Let's hope it continues.

Blessings to you, and happy Feast of St. Thomas!

29 posted on 07/03/2009 6:07:27 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Northern Yankee

Yes indeed! Maybe it was just that Bernardin’s “nuances” got away from him. It is wonderful to have this new generation of bishops who say exactly what they mean and exactly what the Church’s teaching is on a given matter.

I think there is definitely an improvement, and I have even noticed that, under the influence of good bishops, some priests I thought of as somewhat unsure or timid about Church teachings are bucking up and actually getting more orthodox, or more outspoken about it, at least. There’s hope yet and I am feeling much more positive these days.

Happy Feast of St Thomas (who believed because he saw...but that’s because the Faith and the One we believe in is real).


30 posted on 07/03/2009 9:47:53 AM PDT by livius
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To: Puddleglum

Or the very least Saint Michael show Obama the sword of truth.


31 posted on 07/03/2009 12:01:37 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: NYer
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama told a round table of religion writers July 2 that he continues to be profoundly influenced by the late Cardinal Joseph Bernardin of Chicago, whom he came to know when he was a community organizer in a project partially funded by the Catholic Campaign for Human Development.

This was a Saul Alinsky project.

Obama said his encounters with the cardinal continue to influence him, particularly his “seamless garment” approach to a multitude of social justice issues.

The only "seamless garment" is the "seamless garment" of all G-d's commandments.

Wasn't Cardinal Bernardin somewhat . . . sinister?

32 posted on 07/03/2009 12:18:43 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayiftach HaShem 'et-pi ha'aton vato'mer leVil`am meh-`asiti lekha ki hikkitani zeh shalosh regalim)
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To: livius
he’s reading the collected heretical works of Cdl Bernardin, founder of the “seamless garment” theory that was intended to take the focus off abortion (which is murder) and make it seem the equivalent of not voting for some social welfare program (which is not murder).

Double sigh. Once again liberation 'theology' rears it's ugliness.

was saved from the charges of the man he had molested as a teenager only because of massive payouts by his fans

Funny how accused molester is not an issue if one says the magic words, ie social justice...

33 posted on 07/03/2009 12:18:53 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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