This is not about pleasure, or pain. I think it pains me more to see that they find things they find, except I don't bury my head in the sand and pretend the sun doesn't shine. Their references are pretty clear, your protests notwithstanding.
Thus, I will say it again: if you actually click on the hyperlinks I provided above you will acquire access to that which you, again, claim that I did not provide.
I did. I is really a lot of rationalizations. Nothing very convincing. The verses are there and they say very clearly what they say.
If you do not do so but merely continue attempting to besmirch the Bible
I have no desire to besmirch the Bible.
for what you have been told about the way that the OT treats rape you will know that you are being intellectually dishonest and passed up an opportunity to educate yourself
That just sounds like a lot of hot air, all fluff and no substance, and lots of making it personal.
—you will know that you are pseudo-skeptical and are engaging upon emotive argumentation even whilst you keep claiming that since evilbible.com said it—it must be true—without question.
I never said it must be true because evilbible.com.com says it is. The evidence is not fabricated but pulled out of the Bible. You have yet to address those verses in particular and show that they don't say what they say.
Why is it that evilbible.com neglects to mention the most relevant biblical text related to the biblical view of and law about rape?
Which text is that, I am asking you, again?
You are being manipulated by them and they succeed because you will not question them.
I think they use the same argument about Bible believers.
Why do they tell you that the Bible commands human sacrifice when it actually condemns it? Why do they not condemn the Gentile Pagans who actually did perform the human sacrifices which God condemns but are content to condemn the Jews? Do you know that they did that? Do you wonder why?
They mention Abraham being told to kill his son (Genesis 22:1-18). No matter how you look at it, putting Abraham through such an ordeal is rather cruel in some people's eyes. But, then some people don't think torturing animals is cruel. I guess we must not agree on what constitutes cruel.
They quote Lev 27:28-29 where everything that is not redeemed must be put to death (including humans I suppose).
They quote Judges 11:29-40 NLT, and Jephthah's daughter.
They quote Joshua 7:15 NLT God, and so on. In other words they go on to make their case. If you feel their case is worthless, in an absolute sense, then prove it.
I am actually begging you to practice honest skepticism.
I believe I am.
kosta50,
I am surprised that you are, again, asking which is the most relevant biblical text related to the biblical view of, and law about, rape since my essays on this issue related to evilbible.com makes it very clear.
Apparently, you are simply not going to challenge what you have been told by evilbible.com and you have not read my proof of their manipulations, fallacies and basic lack of knowledge of the Bible’s contents, contexts and concepts.
Simply stated: the Old Testament law about rape is that when a rape occurs the rapist receives the death penalty (Deuteronomy 22:25-27). Yet, since it is evilbible.com’s contention that the Bible commands or simply does not condemn rape they did not make any reference to this text at all since they would have to give up their promulgation of falsehoods.
I see that you are joining the evilbible.com rank by condemning the Jew Abraham for human sacrifice (which he never engaged in) while not condemning Gentile Pagans (who actually did engage in it).
Please allow me to make one thing clear evilbile.com is not, I repeat not, making their case. They are prepping you by making highly emotive statements, then offering you little crumbs of partial texts and finally, they tell you what you should think that these texts mean.
Meanwhile, they hide texts that are no convenient to their premise and selectively quote texts that they can then manipulate.
You write, “…Lev 27:28-29, where everything that is not redeemed must be put to death (including humans I suppose).” That is just the point; please do not “suppose” but inform yourself so that you do not continue holding to and spreading falsehoods about the Bible.
I can barely understand what you are asking or rather, why you keep insisting that I prove my case. I have been begging you to consider the evidence which I have provided because I have proved it.
Genesis 22:1-18, Lev 27:28-29, Judges 11:29-40, Joshua 7:15—I have dealt with all of these. I have personally dealt with every single text that evilbible.com quotes or otherwise cites related to rape, human sacrifice, Jesus having lied, and charges of Jewish and Christian hypocrisy.
I taken evilbible.com seriously enough to specifically respond to each and every one of their claims related to the above mentioned issues.
As far as I can tell, you are not willing to consider that they might even be mistaken on any of their claims and will simply believe what they tell you.
Now, you are responsible for yourself: you have made claims premised upon evilbible.com’s statements and have been told where to find point by point, specific refutations of each and every one of those points—it is up to you.