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To: NYer

What I do not understand about this image is this: I have heard that when Mary miraculously created it, her image was on the cloak but that, later, artists painted in the golden rays around her. Is this true?

Why would humans think they could possibly improve the miraculous image in any way? How could one dare add a single thing to the image that appeared as Mary wanted it to be?


33 posted on 12/13/2009 5:49:28 PM PST by Melian ("Here's the moral of the story: Catholic witness has a cost." ~Archbishop Charles Chaput)
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To: Melian

Never heard that... I’m quite sure it never happened.


35 posted on 12/13/2009 5:53:46 PM PST by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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To: Melian
What I do not understand about this image is this: I have heard that when Mary miraculously created it, her image was on the cloak but that, later, artists painted in the golden rays around her. Is this true?

I have never heard that story, nor can I find anything on the internet to justify it. Here is a detailed description of the image and its significance and the results of scientific investigation. Notice, there are NO brush strokes.

     The Image of Our Lady is actually an Aztec
    Pictograph which was read and understood
quickly by the Aztec Indians. 

     1.    THE LADY STOOD IN FRONT OF
            THE SUN
            She was greater than the dreaded
            Huitzilopochtli, their sun-god of war.

     2.    HER FOOT RESTED ON THE
            CRESCENT MOON 
            She had clearly crushed Quetzalcoatl,
            the feathered serpent moon-
            god.                          

3.         THE STARS STREWN ACROSS
            THE MANTLE
            She was greater than the stars of heaven which they worshipped. 
            She was a virgin and the Queen of the heavens for Virgo rests over
            her womb and the northern crown upon her head. She appeared on
           December 12, 1531 and the stars that she wore are the constellations
           of the stars that appeared in the sky that day!

4.         THE BLUE‑GREEN HUE OF HER MANTLE
            She was a Queen because she wears the color of royalty.

5.         THE BLACK CROSS ON THE BROOCH AT HER NECK
            Her God was that of the Spanish Missionaries, Jesus Christ her son
            who died on the cross for all mankind.

6.         THE BLACK BELT
            She was with child because she wore the Aztec Maternity Belt.

7.         THE FOUR PETAL FLOWER OVER THE WOMB
            She was the Mother of God because the flower was a special sy
mbol
            of
life, movement and deity-the center of the universe.

8.         HER HANDS ARE JOINED IN PRAYER
            She was not God but clearly there was one greater than Her and she
            pointed her finger to the cross on her brooch.

9.         THE DESIGN ON HER ROSE COLORED GARMENT
            She is the Queen of the Earth because she is wearing a contour map
            of Mexico telling the Indians exactly where the apparition took place.

The Image of Our Lady of Guadalupe and Science

1.         The image to this date, cannot be explained by science.

2.         The image shows no sign of deterioration after 450 years!
            The tilma or cloak of Saint Juan Diego on which the image of Our
            Lady has been imprinted, is a coarse fabric made from the threads of
            the maguey cactus. This fiber disintegrates within 20-60 years! 

3.         There is no under sketch, no sizing and no protective over-varnish on
            the image.

4.         Microscopic examination revealed that there were no brush strokes.

5.         The image seems to increase in size and change colors due to an
            unknown property of the surface and substance of which it is made.

6.         According to Kodak of Mexico, the image is smooth and feels like
            a modern day photograph.  (Produced 300 years before the invention
            of photography.)

7.         The image has consistently defied exact reproduction, whether by
            brush or camera.

8.         Several images can be seen reflected in the eyes of the Virgin. It is  
            believed to be the images of Juan Diego, Bishop Juan de Zumarraga,
            Juan Gonzales, the interpreter and others.

9.         The distortion and place of the images are identical to what is
            produced in the normal eye which is impossible to obtain on a flat
            surface.

10.       The stars on Our Lady's Mantle coincide with the constellations in the
            sky on  December 12, 1531. All who have scientifically examined the
            image of Our Lady over the centuries confess that its properties are
            absolutely unique and so inexplicable in human terms that the image
            can only be supernatural!

39 posted on 12/14/2009 9:46:02 AM PST by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone" - Benedict XVI)
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