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Sebelius Speaks About Abortion and Communion (with challenge from Archbishop Naumann )
ncr ^ | September 17, 2009 | TOM MCFEELY

Posted on 09/17/2009 4:01:19 PM PDT by NYer

HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius (CNS/Reuters)

Wondering how pro-abortion Catholic politicians like Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius justify their public dissent from Church teachings on this most fundamental issue concerning the sanctity of human life?

This blog will answer that question with Sebelius’s own words, in an interview published yesterday by The Washington Post.

Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City in Kansas requested in May 2008 that Sebelius not present herself for reception of Communion because of the public scandal caused by her support for legal abortion as governor of Kansas.

Here’s what Sebelius said about the matter, in her interview with the Post’s Lois Romano (go here to watch a video of her comments):

MS. ROMANO: You are pro-choice.
SECRETARY SEBELIUS: Yes.

MS. ROMANO: Do you think that the federal government should do some federal funding of abortions, personally?
SECRETARY SEBELIUS: Well, the President has made it pretty clear that Congress and the new health insurance plan will not provide federal funds for abortions.

MS. ROMANO: Well, I know that. I was asking you what you thought.
SECRETARY SEBELIUS: I am the Secretary of Health and Human Services, and I will support the President’s proposal moving forward.

MS. ROMANO: You are also a pro-choice Catholic, and I was reading some stories out of your home state recently where one of the bishops took an action. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
SECRETARY SEBELIUS: Well, the Archbishop in the Kansas City area did not approve of my conduct as a public official and asked that I not present myself for communion.

MS. ROMANO: What did you think about that?
SECRETARY SEBELIUS: Well, it was one of the most painful things I have ever experienced in my life, and I am a firm believer in the separation of church and state, and I feel that my actions as a parishioner are different than my actions as a public official and that the people who elected me in Kansas had a right to expect me to uphold their rights and their beliefs even if they did not have the same religious beliefs that I had. And that’s what I did: I took an oath of office and I have taken an oath of office in this job and will uphold the law.

MS. ROMANO: Do you continue to take communion?
SECRETARY SEBELIUS: I really would prefer not to discuss with you. That’s really a personal—thank you.

We simply can’t allow Sebelius’s arguments justifying her pro-abortion actions as a politician to go unchallenged.

In response, here is an excerpt from the Q&A interview with Archbishop Naumann published by his archdiocesan newspaper The Leaven in May 2008, in which the archbishop explains in detail why he requested Sebelius to refrain from presenting herself for Communion because of the scandal caused by her pro-abortion actions.

Q. What is meant when it is said that Gov. Sebelius’ actions were scandalous?
A. To answer this question, I again refer to “Happy Are Those Who Are Called to His Supper,” which references the Catechism of the Catholic Church: “To give scandal means more than to cause other people to be shocked or upset by what one does. Rather, one’s action leads someone else to sin. Scandal is an attitude or behavior which leads another to do evil. The person who gives scandal becomes his neighbor’s tempter. To lead others into sin is indeed a very serious matter. Anyone who uses the power at his disposal in such a way that it leads others to do wrong becomes guilty of scandal and responsible for the evil that he has directly or indirectly encouraged” (no. 4).

Governor Sebelius’ public support for legalized abortion, as a Catholic, naturally leads others to question the moral gravity of abortion. In effect, her actions and advocacy for legalized abortion, coupled with her reception of holy Communion, have said to other Catholics: “I am a good Catholic and I support legalized abortion. You can be a good Catholic and support legalized abortion.”

Q. How can the Church require the governor to fail to uphold her oath of office to enforce the laws and court decisions of the state and federal government?
A. No one has asked the governor not to uphold her oath of office. However, the governor does have an obligation, as a Catholic, to express her opposition to laws and judicial decisions that fail to protect the lives of the innocent and to do all in her power to work to change the law. She has a responsibility to use her exceptional leadership abilities to extend the maximum protection possible under the current limitations imposed by the Supreme Court.



TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Worship
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; communion; sebelius

1 posted on 09/17/2009 4:01:20 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

BUMP


2 posted on 09/17/2009 4:02:44 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (They pour flaming jet fuel on people to please their god. How shall we respond?)
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
In effect, her actions and advocacy for legalized abortion, coupled with her reception of holy Communion, have said to other Catholics: “I am a good Catholic and I support legalized abortion.
3 posted on 09/17/2009 4:04:10 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

Were her sins only injurious to her own soul I would pray for her. But because her sins have such a tragic impact on the innocent unborn I pray for her demise.


4 posted on 09/17/2009 4:08:38 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: NYer

Well, the Archbishop in the Kansas City area did not approve of my conduct as a public official and asked that I not present myself for communion.

MS. ROMANO: What did you think about that?

SECRETARY SEBELIUS: Well, it was one of the most painful things I have ever experienced in my life

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Was your feelings hurt???

JUST THINK ABOUT HOW PAINFUL IT IS FOR THE BABY!!!

She


5 posted on 09/17/2009 4:11:36 PM PDT by Linda Frances
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To: Linda Frances

Hurt feelings vs getting limbs ripped off....

hmmmmmm...


6 posted on 09/17/2009 4:21:25 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: NYer
You see, there's Kathleen Sebelius, politician; and Kathleen Sebelius, parishioner. Two different people with the same name. And the same Social Security Number. And the same genome, fingerprints, and body. But possessing two different spirits.

Or possessed by...

Or something.

Confused, much?

7 posted on 09/17/2009 4:26:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child who's got his own." Arthur Herzog Jr./Billie Holiday)
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To: NYer; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping


8 posted on 09/17/2009 4:26:56 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: NYer

Obama has a nasty habit of finding CINO to do his dirty work. How convenient.


9 posted on 09/17/2009 5:28:44 PM PDT by m4629 (politically incorrect, and proud of it)
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To: NYer
MS. ROMANO: Do you continue to take communion?
SECRETARY SEBELIUS: I really would prefer not to discuss with you. That’s really a personal—thank you.

I think we can assume that she continues to take communion, probably in D.C. and perhaps the priest isn't aware either of who she is or the Archbishop's ruling.

10 posted on 09/17/2009 5:34:07 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
perhaps the priest isn't aware either of who she is or the Archbishop's ruling.

Unlikely.

Sebelius Communion ban to apply in Washington

11 posted on 09/17/2009 8:26:21 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Miss Marple; NYer

Under Canon Law, it is nonsensical for the bishops to be involved in this at all—either bishop, Naumann or Wuerl. It is nonsensical to hold that there can be one “policy” on this matter in Kansas City and another “policy” in Washington.

Sebelius should be denied Communion ANYWHERE she attempts to receive it.

http://tinyurl.com/canon915
http://tinyurl.com/pont915


12 posted on 09/17/2009 9:13:42 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward KennedyÂ’s America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I don’t disagree.

I just try hard not to attribute malice to things which can be explained by incompetence, particularly with the Church.

On the other hand, I am sorry to say that the truth probably is that Sebelius talked to someone like Kerry who knows a parish with a liberal priest who tends to ignore things like this. She probably didn’t want to admit she’s doing this because she knew it would shine the spotlight on her.


13 posted on 09/18/2009 4:52:21 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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