Posted on 12/01/2009 9:56:23 AM PST by Patrick Madrid
This Jerusalem Post article is sure to raise eyebrows, and perhaps tempers, among Jews, Catholics, and anyone else who thinks it's wrong and ugly to spit at someone because of his religious beliefs. This report says that Catholic and Orthodox priests and religious are regularly assaulted by Orthodox Jews who spit at them in a show of contempt. . . .
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Goes to show you there’s a real anti-Christian spirit going on in Israel. Goes to show you Israel’s hatred for the Vatican.
Read the “Acts of the Apostles” and you’ll discover that anti-Christian hatred by the Jews started in the first century.
After reading the whole article, the problem seems to stem from a perception by some Jews that the Christians are preaching anti-Jewish things. It seems, thus, the ultimate solution to the problem would be to address that perception.
If it’s true, where it’s true, put a stop to it. Where something is said that may *sound* anti-Jewish, but is not, an occassion for dialog is clearly indicated.
Think about the centuries of abuse of European Jewry by Christians, often instigated or led by the clergy. I’m surprised that these priests are only being spat upon.
Months or years old story. And no mention of the pro-Palestinian activities of these holy folk.
What is with the venomous hatred of Christians in your post? And if there is so much abuse of Jewish people by Christians, why have they chosen to overwhelmingly reside in Christian nations?
Since you are excusing spitting on priests because of past injustieces, do you similarly excuse black on white crime because of slavery?
You must not have read my blog post then, because I specifically referenced this issue.
Interesting. I’m all for dialog, so, since spitting on a priest seems to be a rather “anti-Christian” statement, I take it that you would agree that those who do the spitting should
“address that perception”? This sounds like as good an occasion as any for dialog.
Why do you make that assumption? Not every Catholic and Orthodox priest in the Middle East is pro-Pali.
How pious.
Yes. The point I was making was that the spitting is horrible and should be stopped. It’s clear that forceful means (that is by police action) has little chance of succeeding. Indeed, the best way to transform a society is not even by the force of might (at least not for lasting effects).
What struck me the most was, while reading these sad accounts, was there was no mention of anyone simply asking the question of one of the offenders, “Why did you do that to me?”
This is why I read the whole article; I was curious to find out the reasons for these assaults. Now of course someone may have asked I don’t know, but it seems an important question to ask if the assaults are to be stopped.
It’s noble that they are willing to turn the other cheek, but constantly taking abuse benefits no one. And indeed if the reason for the spitting is some percieved anti-Jewry, real or not, then that should be addressed.
You blame them for serving their flock? Almost all of the Catholics and Orthodox in Israel are "Palestinian". These "Palestinian" Christians are the descendants of the Jewish, Arab, Roman, and Greek converts of the time of the Roman Empire.
Yes, I agree with you. All good points, especially the one about why no one asks “why?”
Christ the Wisdom and Power of God
18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”[c]
20Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than man’s wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man’s strength.
26Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, 29so that no one may boast before him. 30It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31Therefore, as it is written: “Let him who boasts boast in the Lord.”[d]
You mean the pro-palestinian activities of Orthodox Jews?
Israel has more Christian supporters than Jewish ones. Most US Jews spit in Israel's face and voted for Obama.
You wrote:
“Think about the centuries of abuse of European Jewry by Christians, often instigated or led by the clergy. I’m surprised that these priests are only being spat upon.”
Gee, I guess it’s okay - according to your logic - for blacks to spit on white people. After all blacks were abused by whites for many generations and it’s still happening here and there so it’s okay for black people to spit on you even though you had nothing to do with it. Right, whitey?
wow lots of jew hatred on this thread.
**a perception by some Jews that the Christians are preaching anti-Jewish things.**
The Jews didn’t accept St. Paul either as he talked about the Gentiles.
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