Posted on 12/01/2009 9:19:57 PM PST by delacoert
Thanks for the prayers.
SZ
Nothing but the Blood of Jesus - I am a Mormon - forgiven. Hallelujah! I am free.
Church shopping and church hopping lead me to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Praise His Name Forever. Jesus is everything to me.
It is okay to cease fighting, and peacefully reconsider how one's heart is in relation to Christ.
Peaceful reflection within one's own heart is necessary. The waters must me still to see a reflection. (Ps. 27:19 - As the water reflects the face, so the heart reflects the person.)
Nothing but the Blood of Jesus
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The Jesus of the Bible and the blood that He shed on the Cross at Calvary to save us...
Believers in Jesus are called Christians...
Mormonism has nothing to do with Christianity...
Mormonism is just a made up pagan religion..
Joey Smith was just after illict sex, other peoples money, and control over people..
Mormonism is abusive, racist, sexist, bondage, Egypt, unGodly..
That is why so many people are escaping from the clutches of mormonism and being set free by the saving blood of Jesus...
No you are not free. Only after all you can do
Have you done all you can do for your salvation SD? Have you achieved perfection in this mortal life? Do you continue to sin after repenting? Are you failing to forsake them? If the answer is no:
"And now, verily I say unto you, I, the Lord, will not lay any sin to your charge; go your ways and sin no more; but unto that soul who sinneth shall the former sins return, saith the Lord your God.” —Doctrine and Covenants, Section 82:7
If you answered yes: 1Jo 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
“Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ.…” —Moroni 10:32
You can only have that grace once you've been perfected SD. Only in a sinless state here in this mortal life will salvation be made available to you according to mormonism
“And I say unto you again that he cannot save them in their sins; for I cannot deny his word, and he hath said that no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of heaven.…Therefore, ye cannot be saved in your sins.” —Alma 11:37
How do your works stand up before heavenly father's eyes?
Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags (menstrual cloths); and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Just as it is impossible for “filthy rags” to clean something to spotless perfection, so it is with our souls. “All” righteous efforts done to merit eternal life are nothing but “filthy rags” of pride.
Do you want to know REAL forgiveness SD? Jesus is either 100% sufficient for your perfection or He is just a “necessary” step in the process. If He is truly sufficient to cover your sins, you do not need to add works to make yourself acceptable to God; for the Bible declares: “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us.” (Titus 3:5).
In order for something to be a “gift,” it must be given freely with no terms or conditions attached. If there is anything that we must do to merit or earn eternal life (or to pay Jesus back for His sacrifice), salvation would not be a gift, but rather, a payment or wage for what is earned.
“And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.” —Romans 11:6
Since you not have the ability to pay your sin-debt to Heavenly Father in the first place, how could you ever have the ability pay the debt to Jesus? The Bible proclaims that “we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags.” (Isa 64:6). Just as it is impossible for “filthy rags” to clean something to spotless perfection, so it is with our souls. “All” righteous efforts done to merit eternal life are nothing but “filthy rags” of pride.
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any many should boast.”—Ephesians 2:8-9
The standard required for worthiness is physical perfection in this mortal life. Jesus Christ is the only person who met this test. He lived the perfect life and died in your place—paying the full penalty for your sin so that His righteous perfection could be credited to your account. But just as any gift must be accepted before it can be applied, so it is with Christ. You must personally come to Jesus, admit that you’re a sinner and that you can do nothing to save yourself. Why not come to Jesus today and ask Him to give you His righteousness in exchange for your sin?
“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” —2 Corinthians 5:21
“By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.…For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.” —Hebrews 10:10, 14
“…ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.” —Colossians 3:3
If you need help taking that step, you can go here for help.
Nothing but the Blood of Jesus - I am a Mormon - forgiven. Hallelujah! I am free.
Church shopping and church hopping lead me to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Praise His Name Forever. Jesus is everything to me.
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Saundra, if your statement is true, and you are really “born again, not in the LDS sense, but in the sense of having had Jesus change your heart, then I recommend reading “I was a Born Again Mormon”. A free PDF of the book can be downloaded here (it says donate, but you do not have to):
http://www.bornagainmormon.com/bampdf.htm
Also, I have a few questions. How can you be truly born again, yet stay in the LDS church? The LDS church faith and doctrines are completely incompatible with Biblical Christianity.
It is always about “the Chruch” rather than about “Jesus”.
The LDS church teaches that you can never, in this life, know if you have been truly forgiven (see Spencer W. Kimball’s “The Miracle of Forgiveness”.
The LDS church preaches a different gospel than the Bible does, and again they are not compatible.
It is not about “church shopping”, either. Count the number of time Jesus is mentioned/praised/worshiped in Sacrament meeting, then attend an evangelical church in your area and count the number of times there Jesus is mentioned/praised/worshiped/adored, you will be surprised.
Your mention of “church shopping” suggests that you were looking for a “church” rather than a relationship with Jesus. They are far different things. You can go to church, pay your tithes, be outwardly “active” and still not be a Christian.
You cannot have a personal relationship with Jesus and be LDS. Those who have become ‘born again’, have had the “Jesus experience” while LDS, have seen how their effusive love of Christ made them outcasts in among the LDS. The author of the book above also recounts that reaction as does Michah from the Band “Adam’s Road”.
Bruce McConckie even spoke on how the LDS are NOT to have a “personal relationship” with Jesus. And the LDS often make fun of “Jesus Freaks”.
http://speeches.byu.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6843
So, if you have truly been “born again”, I encourage you to seek out the fellowship of other Born Again believers, outside the LDS church. Feel free to email me private and I can help you find a good, BIBLE teaching church in your area.
This is my story; this is my song; praising my Savior all the day long. I am a Mormon:
“Is it possible to reclaim a life that through reckless abandon has become so strewn with garbage that it appears that the person is unforgivable? Or what about the one who is making an honest effort but has fallen back into sin so many times that he feels that there is no possible way to break the seemingly endless pattern? Or what about the person who has changed his life but just can’t forgive himself? . . .
“The Atonement of Jesus Christ is available to each of us. His Atonement is infinite. It applies to everyone, even you. It can clean, reclaim, and sanctify even you. That is what infinite means—total, complete, all, forever. President Boyd K. Packer has taught: ‘There is no habit, no addiction, no rebellion, no transgression, no apostasy, no crime exempted from the promise of complete forgiveness. That is the promise of the atonement of Christ’
also there is a support group here:
www.irr.org/MIT
This is what mormon doctrine says about Packer opinion
"And now, verily I say unto you, I, the Lord, will not lay any sin to your charge; go your ways and sin no more; but unto that soul who sinneth shall the former sins return, saith the Lord your God.” —Doctrine and Covenants, Section 82:7
“His Atonement is infinite.
Packer's opinion once again is contrary to mormon scriptures
“And I say unto you again that he cannot save them in their sins; for I cannot deny his word, and he hath said that no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of heaven.…Therefore, ye cannot be saved in your sins.” —Alma 11:37
“Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ.…” —Moroni 10:32
That is what infinite means—total, complete, all, forever.
Once again Packer's opinion doesn't match mormon doctrine -
ALMA 45:16: “…for the Lord cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance.”
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS 1:31-32: “For I the Lord cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance; Nevertheless, he that repents and does the commandments of the Lord shall be forgiven.”
Guess what SD - one small sin and ALL your previous sins return to you, that is not complete or forever.
Tell me about the Trinity...
This is my story; this is my song; praising my Savior all the day long. I am a Mormon:
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You are a mormon ???
Therefore Joey Smith is your savior ...
That song the mormons sing is “Praise to the man”...
This is my story; this is my song; praising my Savior all the day long. I am a Mormon:
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Joey Smith, savior of his people, the mormons...
“You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god...”
- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88
“If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]”
- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)
There is “no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God”
- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
“I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him... If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, “Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;” - Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155
“It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,”
- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670
“The Atonement of Jesus Christ
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According to the Christian Bible that happened when Jesus shed His blood on the Cross...
The mormons believe it happened to their mormon jesus in the Garden of Gethsemanee..
President Boyd K. Packer has taught: ‘There is no habit, no addiction, no rebellion, no transgression, no apostasy, no crime exempted from the promise of complete forgiveness. That is the promise of the atonement of Christ’
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Did Packer say how he thought that might be arranged ???
What does a mormon have to do to get all that ???
Is the reward the same for women and men alike ???
But tell us Saundra, what must you DO to reach exaltation? How’s that going for you?
I am a child of God,
And he has sent me here,
Has given me an earthly home
With parents kind and dear.
Chorus
Lead me, guide me, walk beside me,
Help me find the way.
Teach me all that I must DO
To live with him someday.
I am a child of God,
And so my needs are great;
Help me to understand his words
Before it grows too late.
Chorus
I am a child of God.
Rich blessings are in store;
IF I BUT LEARN TO DO HIS WILL
I’ll live with him once more.
Chorus
I am a child of God.
His promises are sure;
Celestial glory shall be mine
IF I CAN BUT ENDURE
Randall composed the first three verses of “I Am a Child of God” at the request of the general board of the Primary Association, of which she was a member. The board wanted a song that could teach children about LDS Church teachings on the nature of a child’s relationship with God..
“Is it possible to reclaim a life that through reckless abandon has become so strewn with garbage that it appears that the person is unforgivable?
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Like Joey Smith ???
Is it ???
He died boasting that he didnt need the Jesus of the Bible
that he was greater than the Jesus of the Bible...
He died unrepentant from his sins...
He died while he was drunk from all the booze he had consume in the jail...
He died trusting in the pagan Jupiter talisman he always wore to ward off evil spirits and for luck...
He died calling out to his FreeMason friends who shot him...
He was not wearing his mormon god jamies...
He led a life of “reckless abandon” that was “strewn with garbage”
What about him ???
Blessed Assurance
Words by Fanny Crosby Music by Phoebe P. Knapp 1873
“Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience,
and our bodies washed with pure water. Hebrews 10:22
Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine!
Oh, what a foretaste of glory divine!
Heir of salvation, purchase of God,
Born of His Spirit, washed in His blood.
This is my story, this is my song,
Praising my Savior all the day long;
This is my story, this is my song,
Praising my Savior all the day long.
Perfect submission, perfect delight,
Visions of rapture now burst on my sight;
Angels descending bring from above,
Echoes of mercy, whispers of love.
This is my story, this is my song,
Praising my Savior all the day long;
This is my story, this is my song,
Praising my Savior all the day long.
Perfect submission, all is at rest,
I in my Savior am happy and blest;
Watching and waiting, looking above,
Filled with His goodness lost in His love.
This is my story, this is my song,
Praising my Savior all the day long;
This is my story, this is my song,
Praising my Savior all the day long.
President Boyd K. Packer has taught: ‘There is no habit, no addiction, no rebellion, no transgression, no apostasy, no crime exempted from the promise of complete forgiveness. That is the promise of the atonement of Christ’
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Packard’s (who was never Prophet) opinion differed from earlier Prophets and another Apostle Bruce R. McConkie. Who is right?:
“Joseph Smith taught that there were certain sins so grievous that man may commit, that they will place the transgressors beyond the power of the atonement of Christ. If these offenses are committed, then the blood of Christ will not cleanse them from their sins even though they repent. Therefore their only hope is to have their own blood shed to atone, as far as possible, in their behalf. This is scriptural doctrine, and is taught in all standard works of the church.” (Doctrines of Salvation by Joseph Fielding Smith, Vol. 1, page 135).
“If you want to know what to do with a thief that you may find stealing, I say kill him on the spot, and never suffer him to commit another inequity.” (Journals of Discourses, Vol. 1, page 108). “Suppose you find your brother in bed with your wife, and put a javelin through both of them, you would be justified, and they would atone for their sins, and be received into the kingdom of God. I would at once do so in such a case; and under such circumstances, I have no wife whom I love so well that I would not put a javelin through her heart, and I would do it with clean hands.-—. There is not a man or woman, who violates the covenants made with their God, that will not be required to pay the debt. The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it; and the judgments of the Almighty will come, sooner or later, and every man and woman will have to atone for breaking their covenants. (Journals of Discourses Vol., page 247, italics added)
“I say that there are men and women that I would advise to go to the President immediately, and ask him to appoint a committee to attend to their case; and then let a place be selected, and let that committee shed their blood.”——”if they are covenant breakers we need a place designated, where we can shed their blood.” (Journals of Discourses, Vol. 4, page 49, italics added).
“There are sins that men commit for which they cannot receive forgiveness in this world, or in that which is to come, and if they had their eyes open to see their true condition, they would be perfectly willing to have their blood spilt upon the ground.” —— “I do know that there are sins committed, of such a nature that if the people did understand the doctrine of salvation, they would tremble because of their situation. And furthermore, I know that there are transgressions, who if they knew themselves, and the only condition upon which they can obtain forgiveness, would beg of their brethren to shed their blood.”——”I say further; I have had men come to me and offer their lives to atone for their sins.” (Journals of Discourses, Vol. 4, pages 53-54, italics added).
“Man may commit certain grievous sins-according to his light and knowledge-that will place him beyond the of the atoning blood of Christ. If then he would be saved he must make sacrifice of his own life to atone-so far as in his power lies-for that sin, for the blood of Christ alone under certain circumstances will not avail.” (Mormon Doctrine by Bruce R. McConkie, page 93)
Blessed Assurance
Words by Fanny Crosby Music by Phoebe P. Knapp 1873
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That one is NOT in the LDS hymnal. Gee, I wonder why?
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