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Visionary won’t share Virgin’s message
Philippine Daily Inquirer ^
| 12/09/2009
| Bibsy M. Carballo
Posted on 12/10/2009 9:49:46 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Dutchboy88
You wrote:
“It is not about control; it is about teaching that such nonsense is true.”
Okay, show us all where the Vatican teaches that this woman is right and telling the truth. Can you do that for us?
“That begins at the top and the Catholic Church loves the top-down authority, so they get to wear it.”
Okay, show us where Pope Benedict XVI teaches that this woman is right and telling the truth. Can you do that for us?
To: vladimir998
I certainly reject Hinn’s theatrics, self indulgence, and vanity, but I don’t feel qualified to reject the healings that occur. That is the Lord’s domain to judge.
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posted on
12/10/2009 1:17:49 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
To: BnBlFlag; Alex Murphy
How anyone can believe such crap is beyond me. Gross Superstition.Yeah, like that freaking Paul the Apostle and his "visions" of Jesus Christ and such. Where was the Vatican when we needed him to be disciplined for yapping about that in the Churches and taking people away from the pure Gospel? (/sarcasm)
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posted on
12/10/2009 2:06:32 PM PST
by
Heliand
To: Dutchboy88
...the biblical Gospel of grace delivered by Paul...Paul's delivering grace now?
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posted on
12/10/2009 2:09:14 PM PST
by
Petronski
(In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
To: Heliand
Did you ever see the broad levitate?
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posted on
12/10/2009 2:16:15 PM PST
by
BnBlFlag
(Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
To: BnBlFlag
No, I have never personally seen the Blessed Virgin Mary levitate, or Emma de Guzman levitate (sorry, I’m not clear who you are referring to as a broad).
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posted on
12/10/2009 2:20:32 PM PST
by
Heliand
To: Mad Dawg
What is the Baptist take on visions and such? My late grandmother was a Primitive Baptist. Primitive Baptists are required to have a vision, in order to be considered fully belonging to the church.
To: Petronski
Evelyn Wood Reading Dynamics is available.
To: vladimir998; Dutchboy88
DB88: What vlad says.
The possibility of truth of a proposition is said by some to rest on whether it is of such a nature that it could conceivably be shown to be false.
In a related way, A charge which is so vague as to be virtually incoherent is not worth defending against. Either you are saying something that is not so, that the Vatican or somebody has endorsed this woman's visions, or you are saying that there is no vision in this age, which would suggest that you deny the OT prophecies that the coming of the Messiah would involve a resurgence of visions, or something else. The phrase "such nonsense" is not very precise.
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posted on
12/10/2009 3:23:35 PM PST
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: editor-surveyor
Thanks!
I’m sorry, “GARB” stands for (um, attire? ;-) )
Bearing in mind the difference in our theologies, the related standard applies for us. Who knows (and who cares?) if someone sees Jesus in her croque monsieur? BUT if he comes out and says, “I saw Jesus, and He says y’all gotta be vegans,” THEN we have a problem. If as a result of seeing Jesus in the grilled cheese somebody makes a commitment to work among the poor and or to go to Mass more often, fine! It worked for him, terrific.
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posted on
12/10/2009 3:28:02 PM PST
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: Heliand
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posted on
12/10/2009 3:36:46 PM PST
by
BnBlFlag
(Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
To: Mad Dawg
The Vatican has most certainly endorsed
THIS FRAUD --->
Oh, the apologetics explaining it are thick, alright...just like much of the rest of their "explanations" when such depart from scripture, resulting in propping up all sorts of nonsense, if it can somehow increase their own power in the minds of men.
The "religiosity" of it all, is putrefying...
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posted on
12/10/2009 3:42:54 PM PST
by
BlueDragon
(there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to both variation & deviation)
To: Mad Dawg
General Association of Regular Baptists.
They are by far the most ridgid and conservative of all protestant sects. (No smoke, no booze, no dancing, no teen dating, etc)
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posted on
12/10/2009 3:43:34 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
To: Dutchboy88
Evelyn Wood Reading Dynamics is available.Would that help me decode your atrocious grammar?
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posted on
12/10/2009 3:48:06 PM PST
by
Petronski
(In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
To: BnBlFlag
First I have to point out that I didn't say, "Knock, knock."
But, what the hey.
Emma Who?
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posted on
12/10/2009 3:48:21 PM PST
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: BlueDragon
Our Lady of Guadalupe? A fraud?
LOL
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posted on
12/10/2009 3:52:31 PM PST
by
Petronski
(In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
To: BlueDragon
BD: Okay. I'm getting (but only because I am AmAZINGLY sensitive) that you have some issues with the whole Our Lady of Guadalupe thing. Could I ask you to treat me as though I were an emissary from Mars, and I had just informed you that I could not only blow up the planet but bring NASCAR to a screeching halt for EVER, and I had no clue about earthly cultic practices? And then, with that background premise, 'splain to me what you think is wrong about Juan Diego, the tilma, all that? Since I believe in the possibility of apparitions and miracles and am a devotee of Mary's and all that, I personally do not see an a priori reason why the whole thing shouldn't have happened. I mean once you acknowledge the resurrection, it seems to me you have to expect the unexpected.
But I'm not quite so big a fool as to realize that lots of people (notably our current SecState) have a problem with the idea that God could or would paint an image on a tilma. So be gentle and 'splain, please?
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posted on
12/10/2009 4:37:22 PM PST
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: Petronski
Whatever it takes for you to understand that Rome, the Vatican, the Catholic Church (or whatever moniker you wish to give it) is a self-aggrandizing cult.
To: Mad Dawg
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posted on
12/10/2009 4:54:16 PM PST
by
BnBlFlag
(Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
To: Dutchboy88
Whatever it takes for you to understand that Rome, the Vatican, the Catholic Church . . . is a self-aggrandizing cult.I doubt Evelyn Woods teaches anti-Catholic bigotry.
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posted on
12/10/2009 5:14:24 PM PST
by
Petronski
(In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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