All this time I was thinking that Jesus was born in a manger because there was no room at the inn, not because they couldnt afford one.
Wasnt there a crowd on the move at the time because hey had to register in their home towns.?
I doubtJesus family was rich, but I gather they were of Middle income range. Joseph had a trade after all.
All this time I was thinking that Jesus was born in a manger because there was no room at the inn, not because they couldnt afford one.
Wasnt there a crowd on the move at the time because hey had to register in their home towns.?
I doubt Jesus family was rich, but I gather they were of Middle income range. Joseph had a trade after all.
Nothing like these scam-artist “Christians” trying to gull the gullible into sending them more of their Social Security dollars.
Pointing out just one example of his ignorance of Scripture, Jesus was approximately two years old when the Magi arrived with their gifts. That is why King Herod ordered the murder of all baby boys two-years-old and under.
Jesus said, “The foxes have holes and the birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay His head.” (Matthew 8:20) These scammers depend on ignorant Christians who don’t read The Book, but only watch TV.
Was Jesus wealthy?
Who cares...I celebrate His life, words and deeds....
Ate their donkey? Does it have cloven hooves? Nope. How about chewing its cut? Also no. Therefore a donkey is not kosher. Jews don't eat their donkeys. Also a donkey is a working animal. Eating it would be like eating your seed corn - you might do it in times of famine as an act of desperation when everyone is struggling for food.
I love arguing that Jesus' family had to stay in a stable because they were poor. The purpose for the census was taxation, so Mary and Joseph weren't poor - they were being audited. That usually leaves social justice leftists' heads spinning.
How is this a “disgusting attack on Christianity”? He makes valid points and it doesn’t negatively impact on Jesus in any way. Can you only be a wise teacher if you’re poor?
His point about the three kings’ gifts makes sense. I’m sure Mary and Joseph didn’t just toss it in the trash after the kings left.
Jesus was a journayman. When you hire a guy to repoint your chimneys he doesn’t show up in a Ferrari, but neither does he show up shoeless.
Works for his daily bread. Charitable enough to share it. Divine enough to multiply it.
How is this an attack?
Well Jesus wasn’t poor that is for sure as he came from a working father family
And when He is asked about the balm used on his feet he says The POOR you always have with you
And he tells the one guy who says he does everything that religion requires to sell his garments and give the $$$ to the POOR
He never identifies Himself as a member of that group
Let me see if I understand this....Oral Roberts became wealthy “selling” religion, therefore Christ was rich. Sounds a little like the “reasoning” of Sir Bedevere of Monty Python and the Holy Grail fame—witches floating as they are made of wood, you know.
Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
There a number of passages that one can selectively pull out and say that Jesus was either rich or poor. The point is ... none of that is important because none of that has any bearing on Jesus’s message.
They say that Jesus was never poor -- and neither should his followers be. Their claim is embedded in the doctrine known as the prosperity gospel, which holds that God rewards the faithful with financial prosperity and spiritual gifts.
Mary and Joseph gave the purification offering that God's law allowed for the poor. Just cheaping out? I don't think so.
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"That's so pathetic, to say that Jesus was struggling alone in the dust and dirt," Anderson says. "That just makes no sense whatsoever. He was constantly in a state of wealth." --from the CNN linkey
"Class, can you say 'kenosis'?"
Living Word Church's (mute speakers before clicking) statement of faith is astonishingly brief, orthodox on it's face, but the way things are phrased make me think he'd be deaf to a traditional Protestant understanding of law and gospel. Best, probably, not to ask him about the imputation of the active obedience of Christ ("no hope without it!").
And the guest speakers list.. Oral, Ken, Jesse, T.D! Oh, yeah!
It takes money to run ministries and take the Gospel to the nations.
When Jesus talked about it being harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than a camel going through an eye of a needle, He was referring to wealthy people love money more than God. The illustration is a heart issue, not a money issue.
Jesus’ uncle was Joseph of Arimethia who also owned the tomb. Joseph also owned tin mines. They had wealth at least in their connection to Joseph.
***this time from the “name it and claim it” prosperity gospel folks...***
It should be noted that after the birth of Jesus, Mary was ritually “unclean” for several days. At the end of that time she offered, at the Temple, not a calf, not a goat or sheep, but two doves or pigeons, which was what the extremely poor offered.