Oh. The "you" was a corporate you, not a personal you?
I'm so confused.
Since (in the Catholic view) being heretical condemns one to being outside the Church (“not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics”), what is the practical consequence of being heretical as so far goes the unity of the Judeo-Christian tradition of Western Civilization?
Help a sick guy out here: what post is that section in quotes from?
Here's a big generalization, probably unfair: A lot of protestants take too "binary" a view of things, IMHO. (so funny to me: the Dominican 'colors' are black and white, yet we're always arguing for nuance.
As I said elsewhere there is almost always something to affirm, nothing that can be said to be is entirely bad, since existence itself is a good. It's very often a matter of stress, of the order in which one says things, and so forth.
As a sort of thought-experiment or observation, in front of an abortion clinic, papist me would be a great deal more likely to be marching and praying with an OPC Presbyterian or a SBC Baptist, (technically, I suppose, heretics and schismatics) than with a modern Episcopalian. (I may be a rat, but that ship is certainly sinking!) Heck, I'd be more likely to be with the groups I mentioned than with Patrick Kennedy, (now excommunicated, Deo Gratias) or with Stretch Pelousy.
Maybe I'm unrealistic, but I think OUR differences here are not the threat to the role and place of the Judaeo-Christian in our Countries weltanschauung as is the bastard child liberal progressivism and atheistic humanism.
YOu should read me when I 'm awake Sometimes I make sense!
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Oh. The "you" was a corporate you, not a personal you?”
I asked for information of the Church’s doctrinal attitude on certain matters. I guess that would be a “corporate you.” I also realize that the instruction you deliver is your “personal” understanding of Church doctrine.
“Help a sick guy out here: what post is that section in quotes from?”
I’m sorry to hear you’re not in good health. You should see a doctor about that before 0bamaCare takes affect. The post was #282.
“Here's a big generalization, probably unfair:”
A generalization functions to help us organize our thinking. If it is “unfair,” or is otherwise maladroit, then it is not helpful. This “binary” Protestant was looking to better understand whether or not the Catholic Church’s doctrinal attitude enables it to join the rest of us who call ourselves ‘Conservative’ in rising to the defense of Western Civilization (in defense of the Judeo-Christian tradition). A nuance is capable of helping us to a sophisticated understanding of a complicated truth. It can also be used to obfuscate an issue. I don’t take your intent to be one of obfuscation. My inquiry was a fairly straight-forward proposition. I was looking for a fairly straight-forward reply. Perhaps that is not possible.
“papist me would be a great deal more likely to be marching and praying with an OPC Presbyterian or a SBC Baptist, (technically, I suppose, heretics and schismatics) than with a modern Episcopalian.”
Nothing technical involved. If one does not formally subscribe to Catholic doctrine, then one is heretic, schismatic, pagan, and ‘outside’ the Church, according to the Catholic point of view. Apparently, you do not take the shunning injunction to the point of not praying or marching in common cause with Christians not of your sect. My assumption is that, like the half of my family that is Catholic, there are many of your persuasion (though certainly not all).
“Maybe I'm unrealistic, but I think OUR differences here are not the threat to the role and place of the Judaeo-Christian in our Countries weltanschauung as is the bastard child liberal progressivism and atheistic humanism.”
Yes. It appears that you and I share a good deal in our worldview. I recognize that there are also many Protestants ‘outside’ Christianity, just as Pelosi, Kennedy, et al, are ‘outside’ Catholicism. The truth is, I consider Pelosi, Kennedy, et al likewise ‘outside’ Christianity. They all (Protestant and Catholic alike) have foresworn their Christian integrity for political expediency or for some other societal ideology.