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Why I Left The Catholic Church
www.Bible.ca ^ | Joseph C. Malone

Posted on 02/23/2010 5:41:42 AM PST by bogusname

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To: RnMomof7
Is the "real body and blood of Christ" more 'REAL' than the spiritual presence of Christ?

Why do you pit one of God's gifts against another, as though you had the right to find fault with either?

If God gave us both, it would seem crystal clear to me that he had some pretty good reasons for doing so.

141 posted on 02/23/2010 9:35:46 AM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: BastropBarbie; sitetest

Btw, the statement that you quoted was sitetest’s. It is polite to ping him when responding to his post.


142 posted on 02/23/2010 9:36:24 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SumProVita
"We do not in anywise presuppose that the books of the New Testament are inspired, but, rather, they are only genuine, authentic documents written by honest men."

What Catholic Church are you talking about?

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"Sacred Scripture is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy Spirit."

143 posted on 02/23/2010 9:39:30 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: bogusname
The Intolerance Of Catholicism

Coming from this anti-Catholic bigot--virtually insane with anti-Catholic hatred--such a statement is truly rich.

144 posted on 02/23/2010 9:40:52 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: stuartcr

As I said, I turned the other cheek for years. I still usually do. But when deliberately, repeatedly provoked by stupidity like this, I occasionally strike back. I envy your ability to just take it and take it and keep on taking it without ever, ever responding in kind. You must be a very virtuous, perfect person who never responds regardless of who or what of significance in your life is attacked. How very zen of you. In fact, I am surprised you are even reading this thread.


145 posted on 02/23/2010 9:41:17 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: Happyinmygarden
Where is the barf alert?

Wow. You must have quite a story that generates the venomous anti-Catholicism that pervades each of your posts.

Google Catholic hospitals. Google Catholic schools. Want a great 'vanity' on the Catholic Church? Why I Am A Catholic ... G.K. Chesterton

... or you could just stay in your "ignorance is bliss" 'happy garden'.

146 posted on 02/23/2010 9:49:33 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: marshmallow

I can’t help but laugh... “custom-made church”...

Yet no-where in the New Testament (where the Church was founded and described) is there mention of the heirarchy and ritual practiced in the Catholic Church (nor the persecution offered up throughout Christian History of non-Catholic Christians... but that is another argument.

How much more “custom made” can you get when the Catholic Church’s method of “evangelism” for centuries was - go into an area and adopt the pagan practices, just renaming them and giving them new or additional meanings? What kind of message is that? You don’t have to change your practices, or even your beliefs to be “one of us”, just change what you call it and what significance you say it has and all is good.

Or the vast history of ministers even within the Catholic Church, who - when they began to question the “leadership” when their lifestyle, teachings, and practices began to diverge seriously from the Scriptures - were summarily “dealt with” by persecution or even death as heretics. No, we can’t be bringing the Bible into how we run things here!!!!

In fact, the book of Revelation clearly points out a condemnation of Catholic-like ruling class in blasting the practice of the Nicolaitans (Revelation 2:6).

And if anyone has been fed “half-truths”, it would be the Catholic faithful who have been fed (or force-fed) official (and heavily redacted/”corrected”/rewritten Christian history. That is just about like believing everything you read in a current public school history textbook. Those reflect history based on the agenda of the book publisher and editors.

And any real study of even Catholic theology will show radical changes and variations through its history. When did the Catholic Church begin officially following a single “Pope”, previously called the Bishop of Rome? Depending on which records you go by (even Catholic writings), the actual practice began sometime between the 4th and 6th Century. At that point, the previous bishops of Rome were retroactively named “Pope”.

Even the Catholic Church has had its own version of “reformation” - actually, multiple times.

But what I really cannot understand - and this applies to ANY congregation calling themselves “Church” - how can teaching and doctrine be in opposition to the plain reading of the Bible? While there is a wide range of interpretive possibilities if one takes verses completely out of context, both the literary setting as well as the historical setting and intended audience, when teaching directly contradicts scripture - there is a problem, and many of the New Testament writers were clear on that subject.

But your direct attack on those who would rely on the Bible over a human’s interpretation demonstrates your walk right in what the author of the initial article claims - that the Catholic Church does not recognize the New Testament as the divine and inerrant Word of God, but only as “advisory letters”.


147 posted on 02/23/2010 9:51:47 AM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: TheBattman

I really enjoyed your post. TheBattman...hmm. I’ll have to remember that name. Thanks


148 posted on 02/23/2010 9:53:50 AM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: La Lydia; stuartcr

sounds like how Jesus would respond...../s


149 posted on 02/23/2010 9:54:39 AM PST by BastropBarbie
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To: bogusname
"The world in its darkest age of paganism has never witnessed such a system of idolatry, so debasing, impious, ridiculous and diabolical in its consequences as the Church of Rome teaches in the dogma of transubstantiation. . . . It seems impossible that man can consent to worship a God whom the rats can eat. . . ."

Wow, what a line. I've never seen a criticism of it put so bluntly.

Do all Catholics believe in transubstantiation? Seems unlikely.

150 posted on 02/23/2010 10:00:10 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: Servant of the Cross; Happyinmygarden

well, there is the psychoanalysis angle I mentioned earlier in post #42. ;)


151 posted on 02/23/2010 10:01:10 AM PST by BastropBarbie
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To: BastropBarbie

I think I remember something about righteous indignation, too.


152 posted on 02/23/2010 10:02:40 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: BastropBarbie; sitetest; trisham; Petronski; Judith Anne
I do not agree. Seems like I have heard this argument before about what FR condones.....The original poster stated why he left...just because some do not like his reasons, does not mean he should be denied the opportunity to state why he left. Perhaps some folks are being too sensitive and not grounded enough in their own beliefs to weather the storm of opposing comments.

What are you talking about? You've been here for just under six months? Or is this not your first name?

153 posted on 02/23/2010 10:05:17 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: bogusname

BTTT


154 posted on 02/23/2010 10:06:34 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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To: wagglebee

One does have to wonder about that.


155 posted on 02/23/2010 10:08:41 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GunRunner
If you are an RC you believe in transubstantiation. If you do not believe in transubstantiation you are not an RC.
156 posted on 02/23/2010 10:11:19 AM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: LvMisesTheGreat

oF course it should be “few thousands years” instead of “few years”


157 posted on 02/23/2010 10:18:08 AM PST by LvMisesTheGreat
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To: NoRedTape
"Jesus was a Jew and the first convert to the Catholic Church;..."

What?!

158 posted on 02/23/2010 10:27:10 AM PST by Semper Mark (As graceful as a bulldozer and as subtle as a wrecking ball.)
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To: wagglebee
What are you talking about? You've been here for just under six months? Or is this not your first name?

This has been my only name here; I will not change it no matter what....

and believe it or not, I still have heard this argument numerous times in the 6 months I have been a member, but also when I lurked behind the scenes for quite a while.

Surely you are not condemning me for joining FR or telling me I cannot post because I have not been here as long as you? Weren't you at the 6 month mile marker at one time?

159 posted on 02/23/2010 10:27:57 AM PST by BastropBarbie
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To: BastropBarbie; trisham; Judith Anne; Petronski; MarkBsnr; Campion; sitetest
and believe it or not, I still have heard this argument numerous times in the 6 months I have been a member, but also when I lurked behind the scenes for quite a while.

What argument? Are you suggesting that anti-Catholic bigotry DOES NOT exist on FR?

160 posted on 02/23/2010 10:31:34 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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