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To: esquirette

If you want to grasp my point of post #90 ,it’s that original sin is paternal sin inherited,thus an infant fetus is not in a state of total depravity due to actual sin that freely committed by an act of individual will of a fetus.

This is another reason why Calvin is sickening when he says there are babies are in hell.

In the case of the Blessed Mother original sin was removed by a singular act of Grace by God so there is no original sin joining flesh with our perfect Lord Jesus,thus he was in a perfect vessel by the Grace of God


107 posted on 02/23/2010 6:29:55 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

***This is another reason why Calvin is sickening when he says there are babies are in hell.

***

DO YOU READ ANYTHING I WROTE TO YOU??? Calivn did NOT believe that children go to hell. He believed the OPPOSITE.


109 posted on 02/23/2010 6:41:30 PM PST by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: stfassisi
1. I’m a sinner, unable to reach God’s standard of perfection, and deserving of eternal separation from Him and the receiving of His judgment and eternal penalty.

2. Jesus, God in the form of a man, lived a sinless life, then was beaten and flayed, and crucified as a blood offering to cover the penalty for my sins and the sins of the rest of humanity, demonstrating God’s love for humanity, His infinite Holiness, and His Justice.

3. By faith, knowing my downcast state and the fact that as a sinful human I had no way to reach God’s perfect standard, I received God’s gift of salvation through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9) offered through His Son’s death.

4. Because of what He has done for me, I want and try to live my life in a way that pleases Him.

Religions are man's vain struggle to reach God. If you don't have Jesus, then you have NOTHING. 2 Timothy 2:16

111 posted on 02/23/2010 6:49:12 PM PST by Hazwaste (Some people are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: stfassisi

“. . .original sin is paternal sin inherited,thus an infant fetus is not in a state of total depravity due to actual sin that freely committed by an act of individual will of a fetus.”

“This is another reason why Calvin is sickening when he says there are babies are in hell.”


Psalm 51:5:

“Surely I was sinful at birth,
sinful from the time my mother conceived me.”

Malachi 1:2-3

“Was not Esau Jacob’s brother?” the Lord says. “Yet I have loved Jacob, but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his mountains into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals.”

Romans 9: 10-26:

“Not only that, but Rebekah’s children had one and the same father, our father Isaac. 11 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12 not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,”

and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”

“16 It does not, therefore, depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.”

“19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’ ” 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?”

“22 What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? 25 As he says in Hosea:”

“I will call them ‘my people’ who are not my people;

and I will call her ‘my loved one’ who is not my loved one,”

“26 and,“It will happen that in the very place where it was said to them,

‘You are not my people,’

they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’ ”

Conclusion: It is God who has placed judgment and mercy together in His Word, to show His attributes and glorify His name.

The Reformers did not create this doctrine. They just read the Word of God which had been chained up in the monastery for hundred of years by the papacy, and proclaimed it once again.


174 posted on 02/24/2010 7:31:23 AM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: stfassisi

“In the case of the Blessed Mother original sin was removed by a singular act of Grace by God so there is no original sin joining flesh with our perfect Lord Jesus,thus he was in a perfect vessel by the Grace of God.”


The Roman Catholic Church was and is wrong to introduce such extra-Biblical doctrines. The ancient nature of it does not redeem it.

A very old heresy remains a heresy.


175 posted on 02/24/2010 7:35:15 AM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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