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Major scandals in Catholic Church
Montreal Gazette ^ | March 22, 2010

Posted on 03/22/2010 6:21:30 AM PDT by Gamecock

Pope Benedict's weekend apology to Ireland went further than any other papal statement on child-sex abuse by priests, but still fell too short for many victims of the scandals shaking the Catholic Church across Europe.

Following are details of some of the major abuse scandals in various countries:

SWITZERLAND: The Swiss Catholic Church is investigating allegations of abuse by clergy. The Diocese of Chur, in eastern Switzerland, said Saturday it was investigating about 10 complaints. The abbot of a monastery in the diocese said at least three of the 77 monks at Einsiedeln had committed acts of abuse since he took up office in December 2001, but no legal action had been taken.

NETHERLANDS: More than 200 Catholics have reported abuse after Radio Netherlands Worldwide and newspaper NRC Handelsblad revealed that three priests from the Salesian order abused pupils decades ago at a boarding school. The church there has set up an independent inquiry headed by a Protestant politician.

GERMANY: A Jesuit high school in Berlin reported cases of sexual abuse there in January, starting a series of revelations at other Catholic boarding schools and non-religious schools.

- The Regensburg diocese admitted physical and sexual abuse cases at a boarding school for its famous Domspatzen (cathedral sparrows) boys choir. Its director, Pope Benedict's brother, Rev. Georg Ratzinger, admitted to slapping boys to discipline them but denied knowledge of sexual abuse. The ensuing wave of abuse charges from previously silent victims has since reached about 250.

IRELAND: In April 2002, Bishop Brendan Comiskey of Ferns resigned over his handling of charges against a priest who committed suicide in 1999 while facing 66 charges of abuse.

- May 2009 - The Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse issued a five-volume report that took nine years to compile. It said priests beat and raped children during decades of abuse in Catholic-run institutions.

- Nov. 2009 - The Murphy report, a government-commissioned inquiry into abuse in Dublin from 1975 to 2004 said church authorities covered up widespread cases of child sexual abuse until the mid-1990s.

- Dec. 2009 - After meeting two Irish church leaders, Pope Benedict said he shared the "outrage, betrayal and shame" over the scandal in Ireland.

- Feb. 2010 - Benedict held crisis talks with 24 Irish bishops at the Vatican. The bishops promised him they were committed to cooperating with authorities. Four bishops have offered their resignations and the pope has so far accepted one.

UNITED STATES: June 2002 - The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops agreed on a new policy that would forbid pedophile priests from ever again acting as clerics - but not necessarily expel them from the priesthood.

BRITAIN: July 2000 - London Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor acknowledged making a mistake in a previous post in the 1980s by allowing a pedophile priest to continue working. The priest was jailed in 1997 for abusing nine boys over a 20-year period.

AUSTRIA: July 2004 - Austrian News magazine Profil ran pictures of priests kissing and groping seminarians at a Catholic seminary in the St. Poelten diocese.

AUSTRALIA: July 2008 - On a visit to Australia, Pope Benedict apologized for sexual abuse by clergy. At that time there had been 107 convictions for sexual abuse in the church there.

MEXICO: March 2009 - Pope Benedict ordered an inquiry into the Legionaries of Christ priestly order whose founder was discovered to be a sexual molester. In 2006, the pope told the founder, Father Marcial Maciel, to retire to a life of "prayer and penitence". Maciel died in 2008. His order acknowledged in 2009 that he had fathered at least one child with a mistress.

CANADA: Oct. 2009 - Bishop Raymond Lahey of Antigonish, N.S., was charged with possession and importation of child pornography. Earlier that year, he had overseen a $13-million settlement with clerical abuse victims in the Antigonish diocese in a case dating back to 1950.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: abuse; freformed; priest
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To: dmz

It will be beautiful.Congrats dmz :)


201 posted on 03/25/2010 4:34:13 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Marysecretary
The real hate comes from Catholics. Read their replies sometime.

I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public. The Catholics are models of discretion compared to you fundys. You fundys seem to attack everyone, cognitive dissonance must really be painful.

202 posted on 03/25/2010 4:56:49 PM PDT by LeGrande (The government wants to make a new Government program (Health Care) to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande

Oh, hahaha.


203 posted on 03/25/2010 5:24:34 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: livius

Oh, sure.


204 posted on 03/25/2010 5:24:59 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Poe White Trash

I just get tired of their whining victimhood, LOL.


205 posted on 03/25/2010 5:25:57 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Lorica

Thank you for reiterating my words. LOL


206 posted on 03/25/2010 5:26:55 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: livius

Yes, it IS real and coming mostly from Catholics...


207 posted on 03/25/2010 5:28:59 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Marysecretary
Yah, ad hominem attacks make me sleepy, too.
208 posted on 03/25/2010 5:42:11 PM PDT by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Wow, I never thought I'd say this, but thank you Eckleburg for the links. The videos are powerful and well done. I re-post the link here and ask that everyone watch the videos as presented.

http://www.romancatholicidentity.com/2010/02/priest-is-alter-christus-bridging-human.html

And btw, there is no indication anywhere that priests are Jesus Christ like you represent time and time again. Thousands of Church documents and whole Catechism for you to pore over, and you have nothing which teaches priests are Jesus Christ . This must burn you up because you use this bogus "priests are Jesus Christ" argument to concoct the ole "no wonder priests are able to abuse children, the kids are taught that he's Jesus!" charade. I've seen you defame priests like this in the past, and I'm sure I'll see you do it again. But if you are really looking for Jesus (body, blood, soul and divinity) I'll give you a hint: don't look at who is standing at the alter, but look in the tabernacle instead.

What you don't understand, Eckeburg, is that the people you debate about Catholicism know what the Catholic Church teaches and represents. We attend mass regularly, sometimes daily. Many of us have been in Catholic schools our entire lives, been taught Catechism by nuns and priests, and some even have attended the seminary. We have family members and close personal friends who are priests and nuns. The Catholic Church is part of our routine, part of our every day lives, part of our culture. You telling us what we believe and what we have been taught is beyond bizarre.

And we know your agenda.

209 posted on 03/25/2010 8:43:47 PM PDT by theanonymouslurker
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To: theanonymouslurker
Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

210 posted on 03/25/2010 8:51:15 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Marysecretary
Oh, hahaha.

I just get tired of their whining victimhood, LOL.

Yes, it IS real and coming mostly from Catholics...

211 posted on 03/25/2010 9:38:16 PM PDT by Lorica
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To: Marysecretary
Yes, it IS real and coming mostly from Catholics...

No problem.

I figure if I string together all those charitably Christian comments which so enrich the conversation while adding layers of penetrating insight, they can be an inspiration to us all.

212 posted on 03/25/2010 9:42:25 PM PDT by Lorica
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To: theanonymouslurker
I will respond in turn to your sickening drivel...

You continue to post gibberish. And now it's nasty gibberish. Roman Catholic apologists seem incapable of discussing these issues without resorting to name-calling and personal invectives.

The papacy proudly refers to its priestcraft as an "alter Christus" - "Another Christ."

No matter what the intent, shading or nuance, that title for any man but Jesus Christ is truly "sickening."

Repent of it.

213 posted on 03/25/2010 10:29:12 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: theanonymouslurker
You telling us what we believe and what we have been taught is beyond bizarre.

I don't tell you what you believe. You tell us what you believe and we Bible-believing Christians are dismayed by what you tell us.

What I do tell you is what Scripture says and why what you believe is incorrect, according to the word of God.

All very telling.

214 posted on 03/25/2010 10:33:32 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Lorica
I have not been wrong "twice on this subject."

Be sure to tell us when and if you ever find where Crimen Sollicitationis has been rescinded or nullified. And along those lines you might tell us what you think was changed because the rest of us see no change whatsoever. The Roman Catholic church still protects pedophile priests and Roman Catholic apologists still turn a blind eye toward the truth.

215 posted on 03/25/2010 10:38:12 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Quix

The amazing thing is how anyone who shines just the tiniest bit of light on the Roman Catholic church is immediately attacked, belittled and made out to be a Catholic basher.

Started with the “Orthodox schism” on through Luther and the Reformers and continues today.

They don’t want to talk about the issues. Instead they resort to covering their tracks and claining victim status.

Jsut amazing.


216 posted on 03/26/2010 6:34:56 AM PDT by Gamecock (We aren't sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. (R.C. Sproul))
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To: theanonymouslurker; Dr. Eckleburg
And btw, there is no indication anywhere that priests are Jesus Christ like you represent time and time again.

When we speak of consecration without any special qualification, we ordinarily understand it as the act by which, in the celebration of Holy Mass, the bread and wine are changed into the body and blood of Christ. It is called transubstantiation, for in the Sacrament of the Eucharist the substance of bread and wine do not remain, but the entire substance of bread is changed into the body of Christ, and the entire substance of wine is changed into His blood, the species or outward semblance of bread and wine alone remaining. This change is produced in virtue of the words: This is my body and This is my blood, or This is the chalice of my blood, pronounced by the priest assuming the person of Christ and using the same ceremonies that Christ used at the Last Supper. That this is the essential form has been the constant belief and teaching of both the Eastern and Western Churches (Renaudot, "Liturgiarum Orientalium Collection", I, i).

Now we know that the pope is the REAL stand in for Christ..but each time he says mass the priest is christ..

217 posted on 03/26/2010 7:45:40 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Gamecock

Kind of reminds me of that seal posted on FR . . . of the DNC.


218 posted on 03/26/2010 8:25:23 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RnMomof7; theanonymouslurker
"...This is my body and This is my blood, or This is the chalice of my blood, pronounced by the priest assuming the person of Christ and using the same ceremonies that Christ used at the Last Supper. That this is the essential form has been the constant belief and teaching of both the Eastern and Western Churches (Renaudot, "Liturgiarum Orientalium Collection", I, i).

Thank you, RnMomof7.

Roman Catholic apologists say whatever the discussion seems to warrant, whether it's true or not. It's a very schizophrenic, imprecise religion that actually teaches priests become an "alter Christus" - "another Christ."

Be prepared to be called names. Some don't take kindly to being proven wrong again and again.

219 posted on 03/26/2010 8:33:07 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Be prepared to be called names. Some don't take kindly to being proven wrong again and again.

Some people spend more time whining about name-calling than they do fact-checking their information.

220 posted on 03/26/2010 11:02:02 AM PDT by Lorica
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To: Gamecock
The amazing thing is how anyone who shines just the tiniest bit of light on the Roman Catholic church is immediately attacked, belittled and made out to be a Catholic basher.

Nah. NYer and marshmallow do it all the time. No one is bashing them, now, are they? It's because they don't salivate, cackle and gloat. Unlike some others around here.

221 posted on 03/26/2010 11:14:09 AM PDT by Lorica
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Roman Catholic apologists say whatever the discussion seems to warrant, whether it's true or not. It's a very schizophrenic, imprecise religion that actually teaches priests become an "alter Christus" - "another Christ."

Yea, and whenever a priest walks through out doorway all us Catholics yell out "Jesus is here!" and immediately bow down and begin to worship him. LOL.

C'mon Eckleburg, you call the Catholic faith "imprecise" only because you cannot find anything in the Catechism or the thousands upon thousands of Catholic writings which were created over the course of centuries saying specifically that priests are Jesus Christ.

Otherwise, let me tell you a bit about my day. Today my boss was not in work, so, to the best of my ability and according to his instruction, I took his place. I dealt with clients, gave advice, made sure his business was taken care of as best I could. His subordinates followed my commands because my boss told them to do so. I made sure that what he left behind to be done was carried out, and I followed his explicit instructions to the best of my ability.

So tell me, are my boss and I the same?

222 posted on 03/26/2010 9:43:23 PM PDT by theanonymouslurker
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I don't tell you what you believe.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL! Seriously stop it, you're killing me!

223 posted on 03/26/2010 9:47:01 PM PDT by theanonymouslurker
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To: Gamecock
Add this to your scorecard:

Sexual Abuse of Children by Protestant Ministers

Report: Protestant Church Insurers Handle 260 Sex Abuse Cases a Year

Abuse by Protestant Ministers of Every Denomination

Child Sexual Molestation by Various Protestant Clergy

Baptist Predators website

"Yeshiva" of Brooklyn also Guilty of Child Abuse

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Sex Abuse by Teachers Said Worse Than Catholic Church

WHEN BOYS ARE MOLESTED BY TEACHERS AND OTHERS IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY


224 posted on 03/26/2010 10:08:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gamecock
The Pope and the Murphy case: what the New York Times story didn't tell you
225 posted on 03/26/2010 10:08:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: theanonymouslurker; RnMomof7
C'mon Eckleburg, you call the Catholic faith "imprecise" only because you cannot find anything in the Catechism or the thousands upon thousands of Catholic writings which were created over the course of centuries saying specifically that priests are Jesus Christ.

lol. You've been given plenty of examples from Roman Catholic doctrine and Roman Catholic priests which teach that the RC priestcraft is an "alter Christus" - "another Christ."

Perhaps what you haven't been given are eyes to see and ears to hear.

The RCC also teaches that only priests can offer the Lord's Supper. Why is that?

Because supposedly only the priest has the magic mojo to turn the bread and wine into Christ. And why is that? Because the priest, in his capacity as an "alter Christus," is offering himself to the congregation.

Sick.

226 posted on 03/26/2010 10:17:22 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Salvation; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Quix; the_conscience

Of course it happens elsewhere.

But here is the difference:

What do you call a Roman Catholic clergyman who abuses children? A priest.

What do you call a Presbyterian clergyman who abuses children? An inmate.

That my FRiend, is the point.


227 posted on 03/26/2010 10:59:30 PM PDT by Gamecock (If you want Your Best Life Now, follow Osteen. If you want your best life forever, don't. JM)
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To: Gamecock

lolol.


228 posted on 03/26/2010 11:05:54 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock

Evidently too often too true.


229 posted on 03/26/2010 11:25:28 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Gamecock; Salvation; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Quix; the_conscience
What do you call a Roman Catholic clergyman who abuses children? A priest.

What do you call a Presbyterian clergyman who abuses children? An inmate.

That really is the whole issue. Any church or organization can be infiltrated by perverts. It's what you do after a CRIME has been committed. The RCC deserves nothing but contempt on this. They protected these perverts by moving them around instead of reporting them to the authorities.

Drudge just posted an article about this. Their Pope was notified by memo that a pervert was being returned to his church after starting therapy. It's all well and good that they wanted to help this pervert, but the therapy should have been provided in jail, or prison. The medieval practice of seperate courts and punishments for clergy was wrong then and is wrong today.

230 posted on 03/27/2010 7:58:54 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
lolol.

That's a good example of a cackle, right there.

231 posted on 03/27/2010 8:30:04 AM PDT by Lorica
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To: Gamecock

Amen !


232 posted on 03/27/2010 4:03:23 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: wmfights

THX for the ping.

Reasonable points, imho.


233 posted on 03/27/2010 6:09:35 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: theanonymouslurker; Dr. Eckleburg
I've noticed you've been really active today slandering the Catholic Church. Does that make you feel good about yourself?

Please do not blame the good Dr. E. for the content of her postings. She is not responsible. As a Calvinist Presbyterian, she was destined to post all of this before the foundations of the universe were created. Please do not be harsh.

Perhaps look it at this way, TAL, it is Palm Sunday, one of the holiest days of the year. The lord of this world is especially active during these seasons, as was pointed out some posts ago, just like Democrats are active in like fashion during election years.

A look around a church's website can provide wonderful insight into that church's theology, doctrines and overall philosophy. For instance, the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, an admittedly dying minor league cult, openly encourages people to speculate upon their pets accompanying them to Heaven.

I have wondered if it is all pets of Calvinists that are eligible, or only Calvinist believing pets, but the website of the OPC is not clear and the good Dr. E. has not yet informed me as to official OPC doctrine on this matter. The Westminster Confession of Faith does not address this matter either; neither do any of the other Reformed Confessions that I have read.

234 posted on 03/28/2010 1:29:47 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: wmfights
Drudge just posted an article about this.

Well, technically speaking, Drudge only posts links and graphics. :)

It's all well and good that they wanted to help this pervert, but the therapy should have been provided in jail, or prison. The medieval practice of seperate courts and punishments for clergy was wrong then and is wrong today.

Agreed. Most Catholics agree with this as well. We parents are the most appalled. What is not apparent to non Catholics, and even to most laity, is the work being done inside the Church by the clergy, and by some of the laity. I have been part of some of those efforts.

I have up to now managed to avoid assault and battery charges. Our Eastern brethren sometimes get a little more physical, which in my opinion is sometimes called for...

235 posted on 03/28/2010 1:41:54 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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