Posted on 03/22/2010 6:21:30 AM PDT by Gamecock
There is a hell.
Believe it or not.
Some thoughts:
1) You fail here by violating two basic logical principles - "Correlation does not equal causation" and making a sweeping generalization. The existence of the doctrine of the priest as "alter Christus" does not necessarily translate to feelings of entitlement to gratification of any sort. Likewise, it is logically inconsistent to paint priests with such a broad brush.
2) Although there are a few men who choose celibacy as a "cover" (and admittedly, there have been seminaries that have done a poor job in screening them out), most of the candidates for priesthood are willing to sacrifice having a wife and children for the sake of the Kingdom.
nothing changes.
What do you wish to change? The seminaries screen as well as is humanly possible, the perpetrators have been removed from ministry. Even if they are canonically defrocked, they are still ontologically priests.
Re: Crimen Sollicitationis
Given that that document that you linked to is in English, and not in Latin, I have a sneaking suspicion that it's a fabrication.
Even if it were not a fabrication, are you certain that it is still in force under the 1983 Code of Canon Law?
The difference is that teachers wind up in prison.
Historically Priests move to another parish.
Trying to justify priests behavior by hiding behind teachers is just pathetic.
Why would I not believe it?
The biggest scandal was the pro-abortion endorsements by groups that call themselves Catholic.
Do tell.
How fitting . . . SOOOOOOOOOOO IMPRESSIVE . . .
and habitual . . . evidently compulsively habitual . . .
A Papist wholesale distorting/lying about my perspective on the critters.
Kind of like Papists distorting reality about the abuses by Papists priests.
Is it something in the ‘holy’ water or in the wafers?
Standard MO Quixy
Deflect
Make counter accusations
Deny
Repeat as needed.
I need to add one:
Counter-Attack
Deflect
Make counter accusations
Deny
Repeat as needed.
INDEED. SOMEWHAT LIKE THE DEMON MANIPULATED GLOBALISTS AND CONGRESS CRITTERS.
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Above from:
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“...most of the candidates for priesthood are willing to sacrifice having a wife and children for the sake of the Kingdom”
Thank you for pointing this out.
To say that the “celibate priesthood—is a situation ripe for sin and tragedy”, or to insinuate that it attracts men who are somehow suspect is truly smearing all good and worthy priests, and, —as you have correctly said, “it is logically inconsistent to paint priests with such a broad brush.”
Crimen Sollicitationis was written by Cardinal Ottaviani in 1962. As of 2001, it is no longer in effect, being replaced by Pope John Paul II's Sacramentorum sanctitatis tutela.
Exactly.
Your description of the Catholic attitude towards Protestants is also correct; I remember when I was growing up that Catholics thought that Protestants were wrong theologically, but not that they (individually or as a group) were evil incarnate or supported evil.
I live in the South now, and I've gotten used to things like a van strategically parked in front of our Cathedral with Bible verses and "Rome is the Whore of Babylon" painted on it. The van's occupants come in and scatter offensive leaflets in the pews from time to time.
I guess I should be used to it by now, but I'm still saddened by this.
Kind of like Papists distorting reality about the abuses by Papists priests.
Is it something in the ‘holy’ water or in the wafers?
Well, now, Gamecock, is this what you were looking for when you pinged Quix?
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
I’d think it more fitting to address that to the original distorting Papist.
No. It’s fitting for you to be responsible for what you say.
This may come a shock to most, if not all Roman Catholics,
BUT I, as a Reformed Christian, consider my dispensational FRiend Quix a dear Christian brother.
While we disagree on on several issues, he believes in salvation by faith alone through Christ alone.
Not the Catholic scheme of works+faith=salvation
No trouble with that, at all.
Am consistently a LOT MORE, ENORMOUSLY MORE RESPONSIBLE AND ACCURATE
than the Papists in their diatribes and assaults on me.
Kindly Try and clean your own house up first before such cheeky exhortations about my responsibilities.
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