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To: Anti-Hillary
It's not just you; the nations spoken of in the Ezekiel 38 and 39 prophecy are busy forming alliances and signing pacts and getting very cozy.

The Magog Invasion: An Alternative View: A Surprise in Psalm 83?

For many years we have been following the conventional view of Ezekiel 38 and 39, the ill-fated invasion attempt of Magog and its allies, notably Iran. With the growing tensions between Iran—as an ostensible nuclear power—and Israel, these passages are the subject of much current discussion and debate.

However, the conventional view still leaves a number of puzzling inconsistencies and contradictions. Ezekiel 38 indicates that Israel is dwelling safely and “without walls.” Yet, when we visit there we are confronted with a 430-mile-long wall 25 feet high. And being shelled continually with hundreds of missiles from both the Hamas and Hezbollah is hardly dwelling “safely. ”

It is also significant to notice that the motivation of the invasion attempt by Magog and its allies is to take spoil: gold, silver, cattle and goods.(1) The Ezekiel account also includes participants from distant lands.

This leaves us with a puzzling anomaly: the players listed in Ezekiel seem to exclude any of the bordering nations: Where are the Palestinians? The Lebanese? The Syrians? The Iraqis? The Jordanians? The Egyptians? The Saudi Arabians? (Sheba and Dedan only appear as spectators rather than as participants!)

It is extremely provocative to contrast the attackers of Ezekiel 38 with the participants described in Psalm 83, which details immediate neighboring combatants. Furthermore, they also have a distinctively different agenda than the parties in the Ezekiel account:

Psalm 83

Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: (Psalm 83:1-5)

This appears to be a significant difference from the motivation of Magog and his allies, which is to take spoil. These combatants are the immediate neighbors, which continue to harass and torment Israel today and are unabashedly committed to wiping Israel off the map!

Furthermore, the specific players highlighted here are nearby, and not the ones included in the Ezekiel account:

The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes; Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre; Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah. (Psalm 83:6-8)

Many may be surprised that the identity of the “Tents of Edom” includes the “Palestinians” of today. This is a topic which will be treated in a separate follow-up article, tracing the origin of the "olam ebah"—the “Everlasting Hatred”—from the womb of Esau and Jacob, and Esau’s contempt of the covenant birthright, to Esau’s spiteful intermarriage with the Ishmaelites, continuing the “everlasting hatred” to this very day.(2) As the Babylonians took Judah into captivity, the Edomites (“Idumeans” in Greek), under pressure from the Nabateans in the east, moved west and established their own “Idumea” encompassing Hebron and environs.

The other members of the Confederation can be easily identified with any good concordance or Bible Handbook. (They are also explored in detail in our featured briefing pack, see page 8 of April 2010 Newsletter from www.khouse.org.)

Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth. Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna: Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession. Psalm 83:9-12

In pleading for the destruction of their current enemies, the Psalmist appeals to the God of Israel to do just as He did in their historical victories of the past.

O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountain on fire; So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD. Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: Psalm 83:13-17

The Judgment against Edom is mentioned in more Old Testament books than it is against any other foreign nation: (3) (Again, the origin, identity, and destiny of “Edom” will be subject of subsequent articles.)

All the members of the Confederacy detailed in Psalm 83 are Muslims. Each of them is the subject of specific judgments which are detailed in Ezekiel 25 through 32. However, the principal issue of the entire episode is to make a specific point:

That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. Psalm 83:18

His name alone is Jehovah, not Allah, the moon-god. And the Abrahamic Covenant has not been repealed! If this view is correct, it suggests a very dramatic prelude to the events of Ezekiel 38.

Order of Events?

1. Israel is regathered in the Land (Ezek 37:12; Isa 11:11,12; Deut 30:3-5).

2. Ancient cities are rebuilt and inhabited (Ezek 36:1-5, 8-10).

3. They meet Muslim/“Arab” resistance (Jer 49:16; Zeph 2:8; Ezek 25:12; 32:5; 36:2; Obad 1:10).

4. Israel establishes an army for defense—see also #10 (Ezek 36:6,7;38:8).

5. Adjacent Muslim nations Confederate (Ps 83:1-8).

6. The Confederacy is committed to the destruction of Israel (Ps 83:1-5, 12).

7. War starts between the Confederacy and Israel (Jer 49:2, 8, 19).

8. Title regained: “My people Israel” (Hos 1:8-10; Rom 9:25,26; Ezek 36:8-12).

9. Israel decisively defeats the Confederacy (Obad 1:9, 18; Ezek 25:13,14; Jer 49:10,20,21, 23-26; Isa 11:12-14;17:1; 19:16,17).

10. Israel has become “an exceedingly great army” (Ezek 37:10; Jer 49:21).

11. Israel takes prisoners of war (Jer 48:46,47; 49:3,6,11; Zeph 2:10,11).

12. The Region is reshaped (Isa 17:1; Jer 49:2, 10; Zeph 2:4).

13. Israel expands its borders (Obad 1:19; Jer 49:2; Isa 19:18,19).

14. Israel “dwells securely” in the Land (Ezek 38:10-12).

This, then, would seem to set the stage for the subsequent events of Ezekiel 38 and 39. If this view is correct, there may be a huge surprise ready to unfold that will totally restructure the Middle East!

“The only certain barrier to truth is the presumption you already have it.” Our challenge is to keep an open mind and study diligently, continually reexamining the numerous presuppositions that tend to blind us all. We are, indeed, entering one of the most exciting times in the history of the Planet Earth! May the Holy Spirit be your personal guide as you continue your “treasure hunt” of searching the Holy Scriptures to prove that these things are so!

So, yes, the Gog-Magog war is getting close, but something has to happen first to make Israel feel safe enough to take down the wall they have been building around the country. Some think that event will be the Psalm 83 war, which hasn't been fulfilled yet but appears to be about to happen with each passing day, and others are of the opinion that the Ezekiel war will take place after the Antichrist signs the seven-year peace pact between Israel and the nations, which would also make Israel feel safe.

At any rate, we know God said all these things will happen, and we see all the players in these events beginning to take their places on the prophetic stage and so we can say with all confidence that these events are very near to being fulfilled.

An interesting article, the first paragraph of which is chilling in light of Bible prophecy and Israel's feeling "safe" and "secure".

36 posted on 04/10/2010 12:50:28 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

About 200 nuclear weapons in various strengths and designed tasks could be considered potent regional restructuring tools...just saying

Israel’s Sampson option!


40 posted on 04/10/2010 12:59:01 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Well, you go on cheering on Satan and his crowd. Go on drawing your pretty multi-colored maps of your imaginary futures. Meanwhile, the faithful saints will shape the future you are trying to predict, as they follow the King of Kings on his triumphal march through history.

When God discredited the Japanese Shinto cult, Douglas MacArthur begged America for 10,000 missionaries. What he got was engineers -- and today, Japan is one of the most materialistic countries on earth. When Soviet Communism fell, we were somewhat better prepared, and made it to the Eastern bloc just about the same time as the porn merchants. My church, for example, started planting daughter churches in Poland and Ukraine in 1990.

When Islam falls, and a billion people wander what to do with their lives, I pray we'll be ready. The fortune tellers, however, who have already conceded the game to the other team, should shut up and quit undermining the morale of God's people. See Numbers 13 -- doomsaying is not a safe occupation. I pray that the doomsayers will be speedily silenced, so that the faithful and faith-filled Christians can get on about their assigned tasks.

54 posted on 04/10/2010 1:38:34 PM PDT by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

That is an interesting article....I did note that BIBI isn’t interested in any forced plan from BO. But he could agrree to something if it is indeed tied to action against Iran...though that is much like blackmailing Israel.


97 posted on 04/10/2010 8:01:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

EXCELLENT POINTS.

THX.


116 posted on 04/12/2010 6:46:39 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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