Skip to comments.Part 3 of 10: Sacrament of Penance, Why do I have to confess my sins to a priest? [Catholic Caucus]
Posted on 04/16/2010 9:24:01 AM PDT by Salvation
|Why do I have to confess my sins to a priest?|
|By Father Michael Van Sloun - For The Catholic Spirit|
|Thursday, 26 March 2009|
The following is the third in a 10-part series on reconciliation
This objection is flawed on a number of counts:
Catholic Caucus thread.
|1449 The formula of absolution used in the Latin Church expresses the essential elements of this sacrament: the Father of mercies is the source of all forgiveness. He effects the reconciliation of sinners through the Passover of his Son and the gift of his Spirit, through the prayer and ministry of the Church:
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Where the heck did you get this notion from? This is a purely voluntary act where the penitent must be truly repentant for his sins and even priests are required to make a confession as did Kings and Queens. Control?
This Religion Forum thread is labeled “Catholic Caucus” meaning, if you are not Catholic do NOT post on this thread.
Posted: “The personal touch. When we confess our sins to a priest, we are able to receive individualized counsel advice that fits our unique circumstances and we can be given a penance that is medicinal, specifically tailored to help us in the spiritual healing process (Canon 981).”
Rresponse: No problems with the “personal touch” as it corrsponds with Scripture. The only problem is with limiting that “touch” and “healing” to “special” believers (Catholic priests), when all Christians have the power to forgive, heal, and edify one another.
Actually (factually), John says we (Christians) are all priests in Revelation 1:6: And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him [be] glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
I just got your admonition, as I did not see it until after making my posts. Sorry. I did not realize I was not welcome as a non-Catholic to post to this thread. Why was it placed in the general forum?
Can’t we have our Caucus threads without the constant interruption of people who clearly know better?
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Sorry for interrupting your caucus. As for “clearly knowing better” that is not the case. You may choose to disbelieve me, but I thought I was responding to a post in the “general” forum (there have been many “Catholic” posts there lately) and am not even sure how I ended up “in” the Catholic caucus.
Actually, I didn’t even realize there were “segregated” areas of Free Republic closed to “non-caucus” posters. “You learn something new every day.”
So just as I wouldn’t break into a Catholic Church to disrupt their service, I will not knowingly “break into” your caucus anymore to interrupt your discussions.
Please forgive me...I truly thought I was posting to a public forum.
Sometimes a "regular" will post to a caucus thread accidentally, e.g. not noticing the label in the header.
Thank you for the explanation. I will try to be more careful. I don’t mind seeing Religion forum posts at all. So how do I avoid posting to “caucus” forums? Is it by noting a [..... Caucus] after the post?
And how do I “join” a caucus if so inclined.
Thanks again for your help.
If these threads are closed to non-catholics, and recovery catholics, then the tag should say so. Perhaps I can recommend [Catholic ONLY] or [Catholic Closed Caucus] as opposed to the [Catholic Caucus] to indicate that status.
If you self-identify as currently a member of a caucus, e.g. "Christian Caucus" - then you are free to post there.
Posters who have changed faiths, e.g. ex-LDS, may not post to the caucus for their previously held beliefs.
The caucus threads offer safe harbor so that like-minded Freepers can discuss issues without disruption. Click on my profile page for more information on thread labels and guidelines pertaining to the Religion Forum.
“Click on my profile page for more information on thread labels and guidelines pertaining to the Religion Forum.”
I have done so. Very well stated. Thanks!
Understood. Lately, however, it seems that nobody understand the “caucus” label, and they have to have a big discussion about it.
I just wonder if all these posters are as ignorant as they claim to be. No way to tell, but good grief! I don’t see this happening on other caucus threads.
Please consider that the word “caucus” can mean:
“any group or meeting organized to further a special interest or cause.”
As such, the use of that term is not as restrictive as you would have it followed in the forums. This can lead to situations where people do not know that the thread is limited in it’s discussion. A small change to the title would help to reduce the confusion.
As a further improvement to the overall system, it would be a nice feature to have subscription only threads. Meaning that if you have not been allowed entrance to a thread community, then you don’t even SEE the thread in the forum lists. Such a feature would be able to more directly enforce the limitations.
Please consider that you and your type have taken up most of this thread. If you have issues, go privately to the RM, and quit ruining a CATHOLIC DISCUSSION with your arguments.d
Honestly, I’m starting to think this is on purpose. How ignorant can real FREEPERS be?
Can you close this thread, and re-start it? It’s totally trashed.
Well Judith, I am just responding to the Moderator in the same and like manner as was used to contact me. Just like I am now responding in the same and like manner as YOU used to contact me.
Apologies if this does not conform to your expectations.
Get off the thread.
Thank you! Salvation Great Post! Wow all that biblical verses but being a Papist should I Like it? You know how we Papist twist scripture?
I read everything but rarely respond.
This time I must.
Thank you for this thread, I treasure these.
By the way, did I tell you I work for a Priest?
**Why was it placed in the general forum?**
It isn’t. It is in the Religion Forum.
I was going to give you the link to Caucus threads, but I see in the next post that the Religion Moderator already did.
Appreciate your post.
Like I said there has been a lot of information and misinformation about forgiveness, Confession, etc.
The thread was posted (with the two previous linked threads) in the spirit of education.
Hopefully some education and thinking will take place.
**Can you close this thread, and re-start it? Its totally trashed.**
I think I’ll leave it the way it is. We always talk about how Catholics are treated on FR. This thread speaks for those who judge Catholics.
Pray for Pope Benedict XVI! It’s his birthday today!
The Religion Moderator explained it well in post 20, as he/she also clarified what a caucus (for Free Republic purposes) is.
If I go to the “forum,” it includes “religion” posts — so I have to exclude myself if it is a “caucus” discussion with which I don’t self identify.
I have yet to see another religion’s caucus threads trashed this way. And I note it rarely if ever happens on your daily threads. On those threads, everyone seems to know what the caucus designation means.
I hope all the Catholic posters take a good look at this thread, and see what rudeness supposedly good FReepers are capable of doing.
Perhaps a note in the first post, from you, of what the caucus designation means, would help remind them. A little one-liner reminder of the rules, you know.
I made one with big red letters and used it on the Happy Birthday to the Pope thread.
I figure these people made their beds (Or didn’t make them -— LOL!); sometimes others (as well as us) needs to see the mess they made.
You’re welcome to ask questions on open threads any time.
Or send me a FReepmail.